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I appreciate your thoughtful and candid post. You're absolutely right; everyone's journey post-RNY surgery is unique, and it's crucial to approach these topics with sensitivity and empathy. Mental health and medication decisions should always involve qualified professionals. Also, for those seeking alternative relief, check out https://releaf.co.uk, which offers CBD options that might help in some situations.
Be very careful when trying to borderline dispense medical and mental health advice, we all vary.
I was put on a host of psychotropics at the height of my complications from my gastric bypass, I gained 80 lbs and there is no way in hades, that I ate myself to that weight, threw up dozens of times a day and still had reactive hypoglycemia and severe hypotension, like scary low blood pressure and literally no registerable levels of ferritin, the bs and no matter how faithful I was in taking my vitamins, I couldn't absorb them to save my live, so my psychiatrist at the time when I had a nervous breakdown in 2007 put me on a ton of psych meds, and in 2008 when I tried to commit suicide because I couldn't take care of myself, let alone my kids, I lost the will to live.
I had a documented history even prior to rny of potency and longevity of meds in all therapy classes including 4 epidurals almost 30 1/2 years ago when in labor with my son and the meds in them NEVER worked.
I still have issues now 21 years post rny, 12 1/2 years post reversal of potency and longevity issues with meds, even though I can get the side effects of them, I'm hard to anethesize as well.
IF a psychiatrist deems a medication is worth a shot in a patient, especially patients who have severe depression issues, weight gain won't be an issue, if the patient loses the will to live and their depression becomes fatal to them.
I learned the hardest way possible that being fat, even fat after nearly dying from gastric bypass complications was not the worst thing to happen to me, the hardest way possible.
My 20 year post rny sister who wasn't nearly as compliant, can travel, climb mountains, eat a whole chipolte, 4 slices of dominos and all she had to do was pick up intense exercise about 12 years ago at 8 years post op to keep her weight off, and she only had to be compliant for one year to lose it.
So if I'm not enough of a bariatric unicorn, so is she, so is my 350 77 year old father who can drive and ride motorcycles, I can't do any of that stuff or work any longer.
I'm not anti wls, I know it saves lives and extends the quality of lives.
But sometimes psych meds and meds in other therapy classes that cause weight gain, too. Even if a patient eats next to nothing.
I have social media associations with major long term gramma grads like me who found having rny be the best thing to ever happen to them and are still compliant to the letter and have never strayed, but she would never food or fat shame another bariatric patient.
I'm not on those meds anymore they didn't help and I've been off of them for a long time, I have hypothyroidism too and not surprisingly am allergic to Synthroid.
So I take the weight cycling, do I recommend it? No. But you aren't walking in my or any other person's shoes. There's days I can eat but rarely like a normal person, other days, more frequently than one would think, it hurts to eat at all.
People need to be careful how they phrase things on here, it's one thing to speak for yourself on what you choose, but it's not even me that I'm mad at certain directions this conversation took, which was originally about CBD oil, it's the fact as a gramma grad rny and gramm grad rny reversal peep, I do have to try and help talk into patients who need a reversal to save their lives and fear getting fat again and think they would rather be dead.
On the flip side I get patients who want a reversal because they miss eating so much they are suicidal, too and I have to gently explain reversals aren't done for that reason and there is no guarantee that they could eat normally again, that most patients who end up feeling like that, do end up losing their surgery regret when they can do so many new things that they couldn't do without the weight loss.
So no one needs to defend weight loss surgery to me, I'm not anti weight loss surgery, at all, even though in my case I wouldn't do it again.
But in cases when patients come up on here and bring up meds and people say their experience with psych meds was different on meds notorious for weight gain but they didn't gain weight, please don't come off with a moral superiority complex.
No one isn't saying you can't be proud of your weight loss but you are playing with fire with other people's psyche's who are vulnerable and again, could benefit from certain meds even if they gain weight which they may not be able to control and that's not because they're less compliant than a patient who doesn't gain weight.
It helps no one but one's ego when they pull stuff like that.
I'm not usually this harsh on here, but again, it's a life or death situation for someone who may read those comments that can make them feel like they shouldn't take meds because of the potential of weight gain but REALLY need them.
Just saying be careful how you phrase things on here...
Peace...
Sorry, I couldve been clearer, my 77 year old father, had rny in 1981, revised the day before my sister's rny in 2002, 10 months after my rny.
And having rny probably definitely saved/extended my father's life by slowing down weight related co morbidities that he had no family history of and that my sister and I have no family history of high bp, high cholesterol and diabetes, my dad only in the last few years is paying the price for his weight but also realizes there's not many 350 lb mid to late 70's people walking around and I'm not saying that with any kind of weight shaming, just saying as a grad, who was the most compliant and didn't get diagnosed with mental health issues until my late 30's (I'm 53, rny was 3 days after my 32nd bday) we all vary.
And while while some people if you know them well being blunt can be helpful, it's not helpful at all, if someone is on psych meds is freaking out about weight gain but could possibly die if they go off them and the consequences even if a patient isn't suicidal some psych meds, a patient just can't abruptly stop taking which they might if fat phobia on here feeds into that, the consequences of not going off certain meds slowly can have major consequences.
But again, it's helpful to remember, your medications and medical choices should be between a qualified trained medical or mental health professional, this place is great for support it's not meant for anything resembling medical advice and certain support when it comes to mental health isn't helpful like some of the comments made on this thread, that's why you all are getting two very wordy posts from me because most people truthfully don't feel comfortable talking about psych issues, regain and complications on here.
I'm not here just to support those going thru a tough time, I'm delighted and happy for those who had a great long term outcome medically and mentally.
But not all of us have, just saying be careful how you phrase stuff, it can be unintentionally but seriously adversely consequential to another.
peace..
