Overeaters Annonymous??

I apologize for initiating this post that ended up hurting you.

Thank you; but it's nothing you did. Please don't think you're responsible for it.

I do hope you can find something that works for you.

Thank you.

Never meant to insult anyone . Actually I ADMIRE the brave folks who try to change longstanding patterns and self destructive coping mechanisms . It's a very three or even four dimensional thing .... not at all simple .

SALTY HAG - Huge ((((HUGS))), my friend ...don't let ignorant, thoughtless, clueless words get you down

Your daughter is one of the bravest people I have ever heard of...she must get her courage, and tenacity from her beautiful mama !!!

Thank you, dear friend.

Aww ((())) . Please don?t imagine that because I say my truthful opinion of twelve step groups after many years attending that I don?t think they can be useful . The information they impart is at the very least interesting ... but I myself just can?t drink the kool-aid.

Mainly because Bill W or whatever his name who was the unfortunately Harvard educated alcoholic AA founder ) who died a several times ( and always ) married drunk screwing whoever he could through his entire career ileading AA) flagrantly plagiarized Maimonides a great thirteenth century Jewish philosopher and head doctor to the Arabic Sultanate who actually wrote the ? ten steps to end addiction? ( Bill?s only contribution other than theft and lying was separating two of the more complicated steps into simpler ones) .he literally plagiarized Maimonides word for word.

the only reason EVERYONE doesn?t know this is that Maimonides was such a prolific writer this ( one page out of a hundred thousand ) ids difficult to find ... and because people really WANT to believe in AA?s hagiography. Even those who know think they better keep quiet because they mistakenly believe the ? steps? help people in danger of losing their lives who are more ignorant than themselves.

The truth is dry drunks are more prone to suicide than almost any other group. They?re miserable .

you can watch me get censored now for sharing an honest opinion based on years of experience .. a truthful opinion that?s not totally PC .

No my own feelings from the past, I had a fleeting wonder if a in person support option for me but does not sound like any better then how I felt when I went.

i know people who have gone to AA and have had wonderful success and saved their lives. I think that is different then OA. Not many things that work for an alcoholic but AA does it seems. Not sure since have not attended AA just my opinion. I just didn't care for OA for my problems at that time in my life and something tells me now to forget it and not pursue it.

Thanks for sharing your experience it helped.

how are those beautiful, adorable cats doing?

They're great thanks for asking one brindle emerald-eyed tortie grrl one blue cream red tortie with huge blue eyes. Both run when their kitten name ( pretty and copy ... cuz she looks exactly like Mom) is called .. theyre perfect little litter box users ( but Persians always are to the very end of their lives fastidiously clean ) they love to play . I may have to let them go to a pet store ...makes me worried and sad honestly . I think the tiny pets for sale bond and then get their hearts broken over and over. :(