Fat Free Dairy ....yess :)

H.A.L.A B.
on 7/22/18 7:16 am

Most fat free dairy has a lot if sugar or fillers. Heavily processed, not natural.

Recent studies show that eating fat does not make us fat. It is the sugar or artificial stuff they add to improve flavor of fat free things.

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califsleevin
on 7/22/18 7:57 am, edited 7/23/18 10:21 am - CA

I would really like to find some fat free milk or yogurt to which this applies; the normal practice is to simply remove the butterfat without adding anything else, which is why they tend to be thinner and less rich (and less caloric.)

Products that depend upon the butterfat for their essential character, like butter, ice or whipped cream, sour cream etc., certainly add things to compensate, like all frankenfoods that are contrary to their basic character (think low carb bread, or all the artificially sweetened junk.)

Eating carbohydrates doesn't make us fat, either. Too much of anything - carbohydrates, fats or proteins - certainly will. As for "recent studies", I will wait for them to be validated by legitimate science before looking at them as anything other than "interesting". Other "recent studies" also show that carbohydrates and sugar don't make us fat, either. This is what science is all about - dispassionately evaluating the evidence without picking and choosing only those bits that fit a particular fad or faith.

Hmmm. Milk cow. Let sit. Skim cream off the top to make ice cream and butter. Drink milk from the bottom (hence "skim" milk) and enjoy. What is not natural and processed about that?

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(deactivated member)
on 7/23/18 10:51 am

Mmm.. there are so many answers to this ...1) cows are bred to overproduce huge amounts of fatty milk a product not natural to feeding the human species. Calves gain literally 1,000 lbs a year on this milk - do you want to gain that too?

2) you can find a study to justify anything . It's kind of like the Bible ... you need to use your common sense. If what you're trying to justify makes you gain weight ( cmon you know this in ONE day ) it's WRONG . Period.

ladygodiva1228
on 7/23/18 12:06 pm - Putnam, CT
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I have to disagree with you.

Cows are not bred to "overproduce huge amounts of fatty milk" cows are bred each year to produce milk in general. Unlike goats who only have to be bred once as long as they are milked daily they will continue to produce milk. Cows can and will dry up even if they are milked daily. The breed of the cow determines the fat content of the milk and products produced from it. Jerseys are known for their high butterfat content, but lower milk production. Holsteins are what most commercial dairy farms use as they produce the most milk. They can give anywhere from 2-6 gallons of milk at a time. And they are milked twice a day.

Calves do not put 1000lbs on in a year due to milk. Most are weaned at 3 months and switched to grain, hay, and grass. Dairy calves are only allowed the colostrum and then bottle fed for a couple of months. Most yearling calves are 500-600lbs depending on the breed. Even beef cows are not a 1000lbs in a year.

I grew up on Raw milk and was not an overweight kid or teen. I didn't gain my weight until I had my daughter, moved away from the farm and ate over processed crap from the stores and fast food places.

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Grim_Traveller
on 7/23/18 7:37 pm
RNY on 08/21/12

Amen.

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Erin T.
on 7/24/18 2:35 am
VSG on 01/17/17

Yep, grew up on a dairy farm here. So much this!

VSG: 1/17/17

5'7" HW: 283 SW: 229 CW: 135-140 GW: 145

Pre-op: 53 M1: 22 M2: 12 M3: 12 M4: 8 M5: 10 M6: 11 M7: 5 M8: 6 M9-M13: 15-ish

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(deactivated member)
on 7/24/18 1:37 pm, edited 7/24/18 6:37 am

For what it?s worth I?m an obsessive label reader and I can?t find sugar or a filler in any of these fat free dairy products .

Could ?fat free frankenfoods? just be a myth MO people use to justify eating highly fattening products like full fat cheese and ice cream?

Erin T.
on 7/23/18 5:23 am
VSG on 01/17/17

Oh, so I shouldn't have put Creme Fraiche on my eggs this morning?

VSG: 1/17/17

5'7" HW: 283 SW: 229 CW: 135-140 GW: 145

Pre-op: 53 M1: 22 M2: 12 M3: 12 M4: 8 M5: 10 M6: 11 M7: 5 M8: 6 M9-M13: 15-ish

LBL/BL w/ Fat Transfer 1/29/18

Ajeffries
on 7/24/18 1:23 pm
VSG on 01/27/16

Probably not. Cheddar cheese is the only way to go.

PCBR
on 7/24/18 8:26 pm, edited 7/24/18 1:27 pm

Don?t be ridiculous. Everyone knows you?re supposed to poor it into a high ball class and chug it. If it's too viscous, just add a bit of melted ice cream

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GW (Surgeon): 170 - GW (Me): 150

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