Drugs, addiction to excess food and the new generation

NEWSFLASH - anyone eighty , sixty or a hundred or more lbs overweight is an ADDICT duh ... do you think they wanted to get that heavy ?

Let?s stop congratulating each other cuz we don?t do ? real? drugs other than McDonalds and get real. Food addiction is pervasive permanent and life threatening.

I don't think that many would disagree with you. Many of us needed surgery because we are food addicts.

However, it appears you are condoning drug use as being better than being a food addict? Honestly, even if your original post wasn't full of lies, I'm not quite sure what your point was.

Condoning drug use? Hardly. I brought the subject because it's very much real . Our kids and grandkids are being tempted and systematically deliberately beguiled into regular illegal drug use EVERY DAY.

Why do you imagine there are so many school shootings ? Are the kids holding the guns normal or have they had enough of being exploited and misused?

We ex food addicts ( who more or less got over it ) are in a unique position to help.

Junk food leads to school shootings? News to me.

I?m not attacking anyone in any way. But i do think there are real persistent excess food addiction issues we all need to deal with.

Pretending they don?t exist is not the way. There is a lot of alcoholism post op and other addiction issues. This is a true measure of how severe our overeating addictions were pre-op.

Let?s be brave enuf to talk about them.

We are talking about addiction and dependency to food or other substance.

We just don't try to glorify or make it an "OK behavior", something that everyone does.

It is not the tipit itself, it is how you presented it. As something fun to do, normal...it is not normal. It is not oK.

Please get help.

>> "[I don't] think ANY of you are straight, clean, and sober."

Disagree. I have NEVER touched drugs in my life. I have never been drunk. I deal with food addiction, but I am 100% sober.

>> "Most of us would rather have fun with drugs and alcohol... which is what we see YOU do." Nope. I deliberately stay away from that stuff. Thanks to my bipolar, I fight pretty hard to stay stable and healthy, and I don't need to risk that up with illegal substances.

You whine about being bullied, but broadly accuse others of being junkies. Sorry, you're not the victim here.

"the hypocrisy of addicts taking " prescribed" mood altering drugs to feel ok.. not depressed and suicidal or just to sleep every night is not lost on us."

But it sounds like she is also lumping in people who take prescribed drugs for depression and other mental issues that are legitimate and need prescription drugs, which is ridiculous.

Totally missed that in the middle of her word salad.

As a relative newbie, I've read your posts and shook my head several times, but this one wins first prize for utter confusion to me. You ask how we can fix this, but I'm not even sure what you are arguing for. "So now we have entire generations lying to each other and a country horribly dependent and financially bleeding out due to recreational drugs being illegalized ." Are you for legalizing them, then? SMH. If you are...wow.

Present facts to go with your arguments, please. As an RN Case Manager, who has worked with many behavioral health patients, including those with addictions, for many years, I can tell you that putting mental health prescription medications in the same group as opioids and illegal drugs is just so wrong. Mental health medications have been proven to save lives and improve lives.

And may I recommend you do a little research regarding how many children are actually doing drugs. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/monitoring- future-survey-high-school-youth-trends

From this article: "This year's Monitoring the Future (MTF) survey of drug use and attitudes among 8th, 10th, and 12th graders in hundreds of schools across the country continues to report promising trends, with past-year use of illicit drugs other than marijuana holding steady at the lowest levels in over two decades?5.8 percent among 8th graders, 9.4 percent among 10th graders, and 13.3 percent among 12th graders. This is down from peak rates of 13.1 percent for 8th graders in 1996, 18.4 percent for 10th graders in 1996, and 21.6 percent for 12th graders in 2001."

That means that even in the 12th grade, almost 87% of children are NOT taking drugs. 13% using drugs is truly a sad number, I will agree there, but to say that every child (even if they are a pretty female) is taking drugs is just wrong. Until your facts are correct, there is nothing to discuss.

I agree with others, if you haven't examined your behavior and noticed that you may need to change some things if you want a different reaction to you, then I suggest that you get some help. It isn't mean to say that. It is truly an act of kindness. When people care enough about you to say that, take it for what it is. Care.