High Carb vs. High Fat and CVD: from the Lancet.

Donna L.
on 9/1/17 6:48 pm - Chicago, IL
Revision on 02/19/18

This study was just published in The Lancet, which is one of the most significant medical journals in the world.

It's not a huge surprise, given the benefits many of us experience post-WLS come from sticking to a relatively low carb diet. I thought y'all might find it interesting!

I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!

It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life

Cathy H.
on 9/1/17 6:55 pm
VSG on 10/31/16

I'll bet the full text article is a good read, but the summary is very informative. Thanks for the link, Donna!

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Donna L.
on 9/6/17 11:37 am - Chicago, IL
Revision on 02/19/18

I have access to the full study, but I can't post it for copyright reasons. If anyone has questions about data, though, I can look up the info and quote brief parts of it.

I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!

It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life

Grim_Traveller
on 9/2/17 4:29 am
RNY on 08/21/12

Fat good. Carbs bad. Fat delicious.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

(deactivated member)
on 9/5/17 8:50 am
VSG on 01/12/17

Delicious, delicious fat.

(deactivated member)
on 9/7/17 9:19 pm
VSG on 12/28/16

That pretty much sums it up.

(deactivated member)
on 9/2/17 4:50 am, edited 9/1/17 9:50 pm

It's interesting but I can't agree. The cuisines of many largely impoverished nations like India or Ethiopia are very high fat - yet obesity ( and WLS) is rampant in the upper classes who can afford to eat that way.

i find I can tolerate more fat after WLS surgery than before without gaining- which gives me penalty free access to the nuts my brain craves occasionally and even ( when business at work forces ) restaurant and fast food.Still I find I feel sick especially longer term when I'm forced through work cir****tances to repeatedly eat high fat /high protein foods.

Citizen Kim
on 9/2/17 1:06 pm - Castle Rock, CO

You're wrong, scientific study is right.

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CerealKiller Kat71
on 9/3/17 7:01 am
RNY on 12/31/13

Both cultures that you refer to (India, which is an emerging economy, and Ethiopia) are largely carb based diets. The growing obesity numbers amongst higher socio-economic women is believed to be the result of shifts from manual labor to more sedentary occupations and the related decline in physical activity. Additionally, in order for women to be wealthy in these very patriarchal cultures, marriage is quite likely. Marriage produces children, and women have high energy foods (carbs) offered for women during postpartum period. There is nothing about eating more protein or fat as the cause:

Overweight and obesity and its socio-demographic correlates among urban Ethiopian women

India's increasing obesity problem is attributed to over-nutrition of the modern world through globalization -- in other words -- from adapting a western diet of processed foods, sugar and carbs. A lot of the Indian population has started relying on processed foods that contain a huge percentage of trans-fat, sugars, and other unhealthy and artificial ingredients. The WHO (World Health Organization) states that, "junk food, alcohol and sedentary lifestyle are the main causes of the growing obesity problem in sub-continent India."

There is nothing about eating protein or healthy fats.

Obesity in India

"What you eat in private, you wear in public." --- Kat

Grim_Traveller
on 9/3/17 5:58 pm
RNY on 08/21/12

Where would the "high fat" in Indian and Ethiopian diets come from? I would be shocked if it were even a tiny bit true.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

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