Protein Powders - Whey 27g protein or Organic Plant Based 21g protein

Sabrina J.
on 3/27/17 10:47 pm
VSG on 04/10/17

I have purchased 2 different Protein Powders, Muscle Milk 100% Whey Isolate 27g protein per serving and Organic Protein Plant Based Powder 21g protein per serving. Is it better to do plant based (with less hormones and less protein) or Whey? Yes -we like meat in our house, but I do not love the hormones they use on the cows. Thoughts?

Grim_Traveller
on 3/28/17 3:40 am
RNY on 08/21/12

Unless they have added additional amino acids, plant based proteins are lacking things that animal based proteins have. They are incomplete. If they have added things to make up for it, it makes it more processed, chemical based, and kinda ruins the whole organic thing.

If you are looking for the best thing nutrition wise, find 100 percent whey protein isolate (not concentrate). It's the best quality as far as nutrition goes.

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Sabrina J.
on 3/28/17 10:09 am
VSG on 04/10/17

Thank you!!

Sabrina J.
on 3/28/17 10:37 am
VSG on 04/10/17

This is the Organic Protein that I bought a lot of - it says Amino Acids..Would you take a look at the following for me and tell me if I should use the other Whey Isolate? I appreciate help from those that are experienced!

What's Inside
Organic Sprouted Brown Rice Protein
Organic Chia Protein
Organic Hemp Protein Organic Fiber

  • Raw
  • Hypo-Allergenic
  • Complete Amino Acid Profile
  • High Fiber
  • Doctor Developed

Supplement Facts

Amount Per Serving % DV
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 2 Rounded scoops
Servings Per Container 20
Calories 150.00
Calories from Fat 40.00
Total Fat 4.00 g 6%
Saturated Fat 0.00 g 0%
Trans Fat 0.00 g
Cholesterol 0.00 mg 0%
Total Carbohydrate 13.00 g 4%
Dietary Fiber 5.00 g 20%
Sugar Alcohol 5.00 g
Protein 21.00 g 42%
Sugars 1.00 g
Potassium 60.00 mg 2%
Sodium 125.00 mg 5%
Calories: 2000 2500
** Daily Value (DV) not established
? Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on
your calorie needs:
Total Fat Less than 65 g 80 g
Sat. Fat Less than 20 g 25 g
Cholesterol Less than 300 mg 300 mg
Sodium Less than 2400 mg 2400 mg
Total Carbohydrate 300 g 375 g
Dietary Fiber 25 g 30 g
Calories per gram:
Fat 9 ? Carbohydrate 4 ? Protein 4
califsleevin
on 3/28/17 5:22 pm, edited 3/28/17 10:23 am - CA

It looks like it's probably OK. The thing to watch with plant proteins, as Grim notes, is that they are incomplete proteins, meaning that they don't have have the complete roster of essential amino acids (IIRC, there are 21 of them) that the body needs, which animal protein provides as a matter of course. Typically with a vegetarian/vegan diet one needs to find the right combination (or complement) of plant proteins to provide that complete profile. Rice and beans is a good example (there's a reason why that has evolved into a staple of many cultures - it's not just random taste preferences!) Their label claims that they are providing a complete amino acid profile so that looks good. If it was done correctly, then the blend of plant proteins that they are using is providing that complete profile; if they are cheaping out, then they may be adding some artificial or synthetically sourced amino acids to make up the profile making it a more dubious frankenfood.

Absorptionwise, it won't be as good as whey isolate, but as Eggface notes, go with what you will drink first, as a product that sits in your cupboard unused because you can't stand it doesn't get absorbed at all. The plant based proteins will tend to be somewhat lower density protein (amount of protein per calorie) so you need to live with that or account for it in your diet; some will object to the amount of carbohydrates in the plant product, but that's in individual preference more than anything.

Something else that you can consider is to blend it with a whey isolate product and split the difference. I often mixed powders to get a better flavor. I have blended out a couple of clinker protein powders that I have gotten over the years rather than throw them out. So, even if what you got may not be "ideal" it can still be used.

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Sabrina J.
on 3/29/17 6:12 am
VSG on 04/10/17

Thank you for taking a look! I am going to have my husband, who's not on the diet, drink the Organic and I will use the Whey Isolate, would rather have better absorption!! Hoping for the least amount of hair loss! Have a great day!

Gina 22 years out
on 3/28/17 4:12 am - Burleson, TX

I agree with Grim. I have had whey protein pretty much every day, for almost 15 years, and have never been in better health

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Sabrina J.
on 3/28/17 10:42 am
VSG on 04/10/17

Thank you Gina - I just posted the picture and the information for Grim to check out. I bought 4 of the Organid and 2 of the Whey. But...if Grim or someone else looks at it and says to do the Whey instead I can have my husband use it, he's not on the diet but has a protein shake everyday so it will not be wasted. Thanks!

CerealKiller Kat71
on 3/28/17 5:23 am
RNY on 12/31/13

Another agreement with Grim.

Especially in the first 18-months out, when protein consumption is so critical, I would stick with the 100% whey protein ISOLATE (not concentrate) for my shakes.

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Sabrina J.
on 3/28/17 10:43 am
VSG on 04/10/17

Thanks Kat!!

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