Inquiring Kathy wants to know? How do you count your carbs? Carbs vs Net Carbs

Kathy S.
on 3/17/17 11:03 am - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with

Imagine thinking you consumed 3 carbs and it was 25? I know me and I know I would not lose on net carbs but there are those that have

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

(deactivated member)
on 3/18/17 9:13 am

A lot of " others " also lost a lot on crazy diets that did not work for me . I'm a hard core excess food addict .

chula82
on 3/16/17 1:48 pm
RNY on 12/21/16

I asked my nut. at my 3 month appointment about this. She obviously said I shouldn't be counting anything, not even calories. I told her no way and I'm counting anyway, she said if I'm going to count anyway to count total carbs, not net-carbs.

Kathy S.
on 3/16/17 2:36 pm - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with

Hi chula82

I can see where she didn't want you to get hung up on numbers but long term we all have to be aware of the numbers, portion size, protein always and carbs

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

Rachel B.
on 3/16/17 2:32 pm - Tucson, AZ
VSG on 08/11/08 with

I just eat food and put it in my fitbit and it tells me how many carbs I have at the end of the day. I might pick a lower carb food. But there's no huge calculation involved for me.

"...This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away, to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. What he was doing..."

Rachel, PMHNP-BC

HW-271 SW-260 LW(2009)-144 ~ Retread: HW-241 CW-190 GW-150


Kathy S.
on 3/16/17 2:37 pm - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with

What ever works for you Rachel is the right thing

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

VSGAnn2014
on 3/16/17 4:17 pm, edited 3/16/17 9:18 am
VSG on 08/14/14

Although this isn't exactly responsive to the OP, I'll leave this here for the record.

I do count carbs (not net carbs) because I track (and measure) everything I eat and have since surgery (2 years, 8 months ago) using My Fitness Pal.

However, I have never limited my carbs, even during the 18 months I was losing weight, other than to emphasize complex, unprocessed and less processed carbs like colored veggies and fruits and whole grains.

In 2017 I have a daily goal of eating 7 colored veggies and fruits. In 2016 my V&F goal was 5/day.) I wind up eating a lot of raw and cooked veggies (carrots, tomatoes, squashes, broccoli, peppers, etc.) and berries (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, etc.). I also get a lot of carbs from dairy products like skim milk and Greek yogurt. I seldom eat potatoes or white rice.

For the last 15 months I've been maintaining solidly at 135 pounds, plus or minus 2 pounds.

As always, others' mileage will vary.

ANN 5'5", AGE 74, HW 235.6 (BMI 39.2), SW 216, GW 150, CW 132, BMI 22

POUNDS LOST: Pre-op -20, M1 -10, M2 -11, M3 -10, M4 -10, M5 -7, M6 -5, M7 -6, M8 -4, M9 -4,
NEXT 10 MOS. -12, TOTAL -100 LBS.

Travelher
on 3/16/17 5:09 pm
Revision on 10/04/16

....and you eat like I do. I'm in the losing phase so following a balanced macro plan and try and keep my carbs around 35%, fat around 25% and protein around 40%. I get my carbs for the most part from berries, apples, vegetables and a few tbs of steel cut oats. I was surprised after eating my overnight oats with apple that my blood sugar test was in the normal range for (fasting).

I avoid processed food in general, but do use premier protein which is of course processed...but love it in my oats.

Band-RNY revision age 50 5'4" HW 260 SW: 244 (bf healthy range 23-35%) bf 23.7% (at 137lbs) cw range 135-138.lbl with butt lift and mastoplexy March 23, 2018...2.5lbs removed.

Pre-op-16lbs (size 18/20...244) M1-16lbs (size 18...228) M2-15.6lbs (size 16/18...212.4) M3-10lbs (size 16..202.4) M4-11.4lbs (size 14...191) M5-10.8lbs (size 12...180.2) M6-8.4 (size 8/10...171.8) M7-6.4 (size 8...165.4 lbs) M8-11.6 (size 6...153.8) M9-5.6 (size 4/6...148.2) M10-5.8 (size 4....142.4) M11-4 (size 2/4...138.4) Surgiversary -1 (size 2/4...137.4) M13-2.6 (size 2/4...134.8) M14 (size 2/4...134.8) M15 (size 2...135) M16 (size 2...131.4) M17 (size 2...135) M18 (size 2...135) M19 (size 2...138) M20 (size 2...135) M21 (size 2...138)

Kathy S.
on 3/17/17 11:06 am - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with

Hi VSGAnn,

For me right after my surgery and several years later I didn't focus so much on carbs and did great. As I got older and further out and started back to old high carb (white) choices due to a loved one being sick I found my health started taking hits again. I can't tell you how many low blood sugar attacks I had.

For me, if I want to get back on track and lose I have to cut carbs drastically. As we all know everyone is different but it's nice to share what works for us and then everyone can take it or leave it. My getting back on track buddy from 2004 does net and I do regular and that was what prompted me to post about it.

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

VSGAnn2014
on 3/17/17 11:31 am, edited 3/17/17 4:32 am
VSG on 08/14/14

Kathy, thanks -- didn't know you were posting from a "getting back on track" perspective.

I think the "best answer" to questions like "how many carbs work well for you?" depends completely on the situation each person finds themselves in. For example, are you losing weight? If so, at which food-phase? Are you maintaining and, if so, how's that going? Do certain foods trigger overeating for you -- if so, which ones, and how badly? Are you combatting regain and, if so, how much are you trying to lose, and how's that going so far?

It's a stretch, but these issues are almost analogous to treating someone who has cancer. There's a lot of diagnosis that needs to be done before proffering (or inferring) specific solutions.

Finally, I will admit that I am leery and weary of the "no or low carbs for the rest of your life" as an eating prescription for all WLS patients. First, all carbs are not even remotely alike. Second, not all bodies respond in the same ways to carbs. Third, it smacks of nutritional fundamentalism.

I did it. I said the F word. ;)

ANN 5'5", AGE 74, HW 235.6 (BMI 39.2), SW 216, GW 150, CW 132, BMI 22

POUNDS LOST: Pre-op -20, M1 -10, M2 -11, M3 -10, M4 -10, M5 -7, M6 -5, M7 -6, M8 -4, M9 -4,
NEXT 10 MOS. -12, TOTAL -100 LBS.

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