Good info: how to prevent "stomach stretching"

roxytrim
on 2/21/17 4:26 am - Cobourg, Canada
VSG on 04/12/13

I really found this informative and the next vid on setting goal weight was related. 

Bottom line WLS gives us a forced healthy lifestyle & we have to learn & practice those things that will give us long term success for our once in a lifetime do-over.

One Bad Beach
on 3/2/17 8:16 am
RNY on 11/28/16

This right here! Truth!

"Only I can change my life. No one can do it for me." --Carol Burnett

RNY 11/28/2016

HW 285 - SW 244

Citizen Kim
on 2/21/17 7:43 am, edited 2/21/17 1:12 am - Castle Rock, CO

All in all, I think this is a very informative video, worth the watch.  

I think his dietary advice is hokey, I'd agree with him if he swapped meats and fruit, but I'll put that down to him never having lived WITH surgery or diabetes.  

We should recommend this video to anyone who posts about the Rose or Apollo overstitch because it's exactly what we say here, but hey we're not doctors, so what do we know 

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

Vegbeth
on 2/21/17 10:00 am - Boston , MA
VSG on 12/28/16

Thanks. I found it very interesting and encouraging since I'm really missing the ability to eat my greens right now. I love kale and other than puréed, and then only a tiny amount, I haven't been able to eat them. Good to know that my favorite healthy foods will be back on the menu in a few months. 

Kathy S.
on 2/21/17 12:44 pm - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with

Thanks for sharing....everyone can take away from it what they want and or need....

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

Valerie G.
on 2/21/17 1:00 pm - Northwest Mountains, GA

I don't give it a lot of merit - especially since he's still saying meat makes you fat.

Your stomach is going to stretch - I don't care what you do, it's going to.  It shouldn't get anywhere near what it started, but expect at least 4-5x the size you start with.  I'm talking from a football-sized stomach to the first capacity being that of a shot glass, graduating to about a soda can.  I can also say so from 11 years with a sleeve stomach.  Nobody would know I'm a wls patien****ching me eat.  I'm not at the pre-op capacity, but quite normal.

Valerie
DS 2005

There is room on this earth for all of God's creatures..
next to the mashed potatoes

Jester
on 2/21/17 3:38 pm
RNY on 03/21/16 with

I'm a bit biased towards Dr. Weiner, but if you watch more of his videos you will see that he isn't anti-protein.  His belief is that people who eat "normal" amounts of food are already getting plenty of protein and that focusing on protein first once you are a ways out from surgery doesn't have a lot of added value.  He does set protein goals of 60g for men and 50g for women.

As I am now 11 months out from surgery, I find that to be true.  Where in the past I had to focus on getting my 60g of protein, I now hit it no problem (and often get 90-100) while following Dr. Weiner's plan.  His idea of "veggies first" is predicated on the fact that you are already getting all the protein you need and the 1-2 lbs of veggies a day are giving you a ton of phytonutrients that are great for your health and metabolism.

I'm not looking to argue, just wanted to provide a little context.  I don't believe that his diet contains lots of things that make you fat - he advocates for protein (he suggests at least one non-animal protein meal a day), veggies (1 pound minimum, 2 pounds even better) and fruit.

While I know fruit is a very contentious topic in weight loss, I have never really met anyone yet who got MO from eating fruit, veggies and protein.

I have been following Dr. Weiner's plan since February 9th, 2016.  I lost nearly 50 lbs in the first 6 weeks prior to surgery, and have lost a total of about 185 lbs (from 333 to 146).  I have just been in maintenance for the last couple of months and have a long way to go before I can claim any long term success, but I can say from my personal experience that in the first year following his diet has been an unmitigated success.

VSGAnn2014
on 2/22/17 6:22 am, edited 2/22/17 1:36 am
VSG on 08/14/14

Thanks, Jester.  It's so nice to hear from someone who's actually taken this approach and had success with it.  

My approach was the more conventional one with lots of dense protein.  And I like that -- and still do.  

But at 2.5 years post-op I'm also trying to get my daily veggies/fruits up to 7/day (my target last year was 5/day).  

And for those who might be interested, I just weighed all the veggies and fruits I plan to eat today:  

1 Roma tomato
1 cup blueberries
8 baby carrots
1 large Red Delicious apple
1/2 cup broccoli

Altogether, those foods weigh 1.75 pounds.  

So that's what Weiner's 1-2 pounds a day looks like.  Obviously, it's not very onerous.

P.S.  Not only is eating daily veggies and fruits a way to increase our nutritional intake IMO, but as most people know a higher fiber diet supports satiety in multiple ways.  

ANN 5'5", AGE 74, HW 235.6 (BMI 39.2), SW 216, GW 150, CW 132, BMI 22

POUNDS LOST: Pre-op -20, M1 -10, M2 -11, M3 -10, M4 -10, M5 -7, M6 -5, M7 -6, M8 -4, M9 -4,
NEXT 10 MOS. -12, TOTAL -100 LBS.

Jester
on 2/22/17 8:34 am
RNY on 03/21/16 with

I totally agree about the nutritional intake and high fiber.  It's very anecdotal, as it is a study of one, but not only has my cholesterol plummeted over a year (and it was only borderline high and I was not medicated for it), but I haven't been sick in a year.  Not a cold, nothing.  Could be coincidence (not the cholesterol, that's no coincidence), but it makes me happy. 

Travelher
on 3/1/17 5:54 pm
Revision on 10/04/16

My cholesterol numbers are literally half what they were.  

Band-RNY revision age 50 5'4" HW 260 SW: 244 (bf healthy range 23-35%) bf 23.7% (at 137lbs) cw range 135-138.lbl with butt lift and mastoplexy March 23, 2018...2.5lbs removed.

Pre-op-16lbs (size 18/20...244) M1-16lbs (size 18...228) M2-15.6lbs (size 16/18...212.4) M3-10lbs (size 16..202.4) M4-11.4lbs (size 14...191) M5-10.8lbs (size 12...180.2) M6-8.4 (size 8/10...171.8) M7-6.4 (size 8...165.4 lbs) M8-11.6 (size 6...153.8) M9-5.6 (size 4/6...148.2) M10-5.8 (size 4....142.4) M11-4 (size 2/4...138.4) Surgiversary -1 (size 2/4...137.4) M13-2.6 (size 2/4...134.8) M14 (size 2/4...134.8) M15 (size 2...135) M16 (size 2...131.4) M17 (size 2...135) M18 (size 2...135) M19 (size 2...138) M20 (size 2...135) M21 (size 2...138)

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