Teeth loss???!!!

Hi all- first post on this specific forum (usually on the RNY one).

I've now seen comments from 2 different people who have lost teeth? Is this due to vitamin deficiencies (not taking all vitamins)?

Thanks!

It can be. How are your labs? Specifically your PTH? Vitamin D?

How much/what are you taking for calcium? I'm not asking about the lab value of your calcium, because your body will pull calcium back out of your bones (and teeth) to keep that level in range, since important things like your heart need that level consistent. Often teeth an osteoporosis are the first time we realize something is wrong, if those labs aren't adequate ad watched. 

Do you have any recent labs?

I took my vitamins every day like clock work, and my teeth still got brittle and started breaking off...So make sure you talk to your surgeon about your concern...I ended up having to get all of mine pulled and get dentures...I wasn't too happy the day my two front teeth broke off and couldn't be fixed...I do love having nice pretty straight teeth, and no longer having to worry about having shots, fillings and teeth cleaned...That's one good thing that came out of it.

It is not only calcium and vit D we need for are bones and teeth. It is also magnesium, bit K2, and other microelements (like I.e boron)  critical to proper formation and retention of bones and teeth. 

Unfortunately not many people know that, so just taking some calcium and D may not be enough... 

Here is an article about studies on Vitamin K2 and it's relationship to Calcium and Vitamin D in our bodies.  I was recently diagnosed with osteopenia and don't want to end up with crumbling teeth and brittle bones so I added K2 to my vitamin regime.

According to the studies, when we take oral Vitamin D we need to also take Vitamin K2 along with it.  K2 aides the calcium in getting into the bones and teeth instead of collecting in the soft tissues (like calcified arteries).  The article is pretty good at explaining the science in simple terms.  I thought it was worth a try.  I will know if it works when I get my next DEXA scan.  As stated by a previous poster, you can not rely on calcium testing to know if you are having bone loss.  The ONLY way to know for sure is with an annual DEXA scan.

Just an FYI.... Don't take K2 without doctor supervision if you are on a blood thinner like Warferin.  K2 will effect blood clotting ability in the body.

I had some osteopenia even before surgery, and my vitamin K was low. I only found out because I need knee replacements, and wanted my bones in good shape, so I asked for a bone scan. They seldom recommend them for men.

Doctors think that vitamin K deficiency is rare. The problem is, it is almost never tested. How the hell do they know it's rare, when they never check? Even post-op, I would bet that at least 9 out of 10 don't have it checked. If you want it done, you have to push them for it.

Finding vitamin K supplements isn't easy, either. And most seem to be packed in oil, which of course isn't good.

And there is a difference between K1 and K2.  K2 is what is recommended for bone health and it's HARD to find.  I found it at Whole Foods in capsule form.  It's not cheap either.  I'll be looking online for my next bottle.

And then there is K2 menaquinone -4 and K2 menaquinone-7, and some disagreement about which is better.

I got mine on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Vitamin-MK-7-150mcg-Capsules/dp/B 00Q5HRAB4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443446775&sr=8-2-spons&key words=vitamin+k2

thanks everyone for the info.

This was one of my sticking points on this surgery and was really concerned with these stories. I'm 37 and have spent a small fortune on my teeth already in my life. I don't want to mess up...

Protein malnutrition is another factor.

Point is - learn that vitamin regimens are not one-size-fits-all.  Learn how to read your labs, and get them checked regularly to stay on top of everything.  Never accept that you are normal and invincible.