Too fat for weight loss surgery? 3 months on and off liquid diet :(

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on 8/7/15 7:43 am, edited 8/7/15 10:07 am
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i dont know how to delete this post, so i am changing the text. thank you. 

Ok2BaLoser
on 8/7/15 9:36 am
VSG on 06/19/15

What I am about to say is going to come across harsh, but it is the truth.  If you REALLY want this surgery, you will do WHATEVER it takes to get it.  I honestly don't think the doctors have the expectation that you aren't going to have slip ups during this period.  Some people have had enough will power to make it through their pre-surgery diet with out the slightest slip up.  Others have had LIMITED cheat days (and by limited I mean when they cheated on their diet it wasn't every meal.  It was more like I shouldn't have eaten this roll, but I did.  Now I will do better for the rest of the day) and then there are those who think they can have a roll and stop, but end up blowing their diet day after day. 

My doctor required a 2 week low carb high protein diet.  I was one of those who cheated 1 time.  I stuck to my diet very strictly until the day before my bowel prep.  I decided to have my favorite meal.  Call it a food funeral.  I ate bad 1 time that day and it was Mexican food.  I saved it for my last meal so that I wouldn't be tempted to cheat during the 2 week prep.  Looking back it was a horrible mistake.  I sat down to dinner, ate a couple of chips and cheese dip, received my food, had less than half of my meal, and got sick as a dog.  I deserved it.  It was high in fat, calories, and carbs.

So back to my point.  If you can't see yourself sticking to the pre-op diet requirements, you should probably reconsider the surgery.  This is a tool to aide in weight loss.  Your mind has to be strong.  If you find that you start the diet and repeatedly cheat on it, I would highly recommend seeing a therapist who can help you with your mind set.  There is a good chance that you will just go back to your bad eating habits once you are healed if you don't get it under control prior to the surgery.  Your doctor is probably using this as a test to see if you are capable of the lifestyle change that will be required afterwords.  Depending on your doctor and surgery type, you will more than likely be on a liquid diet 2 weeks after surgery, then a high protein low carb diet for life.  Once you can stomach foods again it will be up to you what you put in your mouth.  I still crave chocolate and fried foods, but after the opportunity I have been given there is no way I would ever want to screw this up.  Maybe one day I'll have a bite of a piece of cake, but right now its GAME TIME.

 

Best wishes.  Sorry for the long response!

Ok2BaLoser
on 8/7/15 9:41 am
VSG on 06/19/15

And one other point - This is a MAJOR surgery.  The years of a high fat diet have more than likely caused you to have a fatty liver.  The pre-op diet also shrinks your liver to help prevent any damage during surgery.  Being overweight and going into surgery is already a major risk, and they work so close to your other vital organs that they take as many precautionary measures as they can to make sure that you have the least amount of complications possible.

 

Grim_Traveller
on 8/7/15 11:37 am
RNY on 08/21/12

High fat diets are not the cause of fatty liver.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Ok2BaLoser
on 8/7/15 5:32 pm
VSG on 06/19/15

I stand corrected. I assumed and should know better than to assume the medical term "fatty" had anything to do with the amount of fat consumed by one. Thanks. 

Gwen M.
on 8/7/15 9:39 am
VSG on 03/13/14

Surgery is a huge drastic change too.  You CAN do it if you want it.  Do you want this?  

If you aren't already seeing a therapist, I highly recommend adding one to your Obesity Recovery Team.  You can do this if you're determined.  Get the tools you need to succeed and a great team, and you can make it work.  

VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)

Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170

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tatirod
on 8/7/15 2:40 am, edited 8/7/15 2:41 am - Toronto, Canada

I have some things to say that you will like and maybe won't like.

Good news: I have a BMI of 66 and approved for surgery. And, the TV show "My 600 Pound Life" has people with much higher BMI's having surgery. Your weight may affect the surgery you have and what surgeons are willing to do it, but you can have surgery at your size.

Bad news: Eating protein and veggies IS essentially the lifelong diet you will have post-WLS. So, might as well get used to it. I know it's more challenging pre-op because your pre-op tummy won't get full like your post-op tummy, but that's life. Some centers require you to lose weight pre-op to demonstrate you are capable of sticking to a specific eating plan. Because the surgery is not a magic bullet. You can gain weight after surgery. Some people never lose weight with surgery because they refuse to change their eating plan (I know one such person in my personal life). WLS is a tool. It's up to you to use it correctly.

 

PS, there is a forum here for people with BMI over 50. You can post there for some tips/support.

Referral: February 2015; TWH Orientation: April 2015; Social Worker: June 10, 2015: Nurse Practitioner: June 11, 2015; Nutrition Class: June 15, 2015; Psychometry Assessment: June 16, 2015; Nutrition Assessment: July 22, 2015; NP follow-up: July 28, 2015; Surgeon Consult: August 28, 2015; Surgery: November 6, 2015; Operation: VSG

MsBatt
on 8/8/15 3:17 pm

Since you've edited your post I have no clue what your weight is, but people weighing 800+ pounds have had WLS. Perhaps you need a different surgeon.

The surgeon who did my DS said "If you could lose weight on your own, you already would have." I had no pre-op diet other than clear liquids the day before surgery.

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