First day eating real food
Correction with RNY. The plyoric valve is NOT removed, but the stomach is dissected into a pouch, so the plyoric valve is no longer active, so the answer as to whether or not its the same is....NO.
With RNY food goes into the pouch and empties without any controls. Eat too much too fast and your stoma leading from the pouch to the intestine can stretch, thus emptying the pouch faster and leaving you constantly hungry.
Valerie
DS 2005
There is room on this earth for all of God's creatures..
next to the mashed potatoes
Good clarification, Val. I sometimes forget that those of us who've had our RNYs for a while refer to them as having removed the pyloric valve just because they removed that and the remnant stomach from service. It definitely might confuse newbies, though, to phrase it that way.
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
No it isn't quite the same for a VSG. With RNY they replace the pyloric valve (which never stretches and controls how fast the food empties into the intestine) with a hand-fashioned "stoma" that can be stretched, so some of the Roux-en-Y rules are in order to prevent stretching the stoma.
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
I probably didn't have the same surgery as you. A bagel is one of the few things that made me sick (I was about a year out from surgery).
Till this day I won't eat bagels. LOL. I'm sure it won't make me sick again but I kinda lost my appetite for them now....blah. Good thing too...it's not good for me any way.
The nerves in your stomach were cut during surgery. You won't feel much, or any restriction after surgery. I think it was around 5-6 weeks before I felt a true restriction in my sleeve.
With that being said, did your doctor or surgeon give you any type of guidelines on the foods you should be eating? Bagels were not in my plan - in fact, anything that could turn to "mush" in my stomach was something to avoid. You should focus on eating dense proteins at this point.
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Oh lordy, I am 3 months out from my VSG and the idea of swallowing a single bite of bagel makes my stomach churn - I can't imagine how terrible it would have felt when I was newly cleared for 'real' foods. As far as restriction, I didn't feel any that early out because I ate carefully measured portions so that I wouldn't GET full, as I didn't want to stress the healing staple line. Even now that I'm out of the early stages of healing and starting to add more variety to my diet, there is absolutely no way that I could eat the same portions as I could before surgery. Heck, there are some days where I can't even eat a 3oz hunk of steak and a single floret of broccoli!
A bagel is not "real food" for anyone who has just had weight loss surgery. You can't eat the same foods you ate before surgery.........that's why doctors have food plans for you to follow post-op. The plans are in place for a reason.... to be followed so you lost weight. If you eat the same foods you ate before surgery, you'll end up weighing what you weighed before surgery.
Hope you get on the program so you get the benefits afforded to you by having the surgery in the first place.
Good Luck.
Mary