Surgery or Not!
Thank you all for the advice. I will have to go over it again. There is no denial in this situation about what I eat. In fact my doctor has said I do not eat enough. I skip all meals on most days and doc says my body is tricked into thinking I'm in starvation mode she said this will keep the weight on me. Menopause has added a lot of weight and so has my very high cortisol level. Pcp said this makes it hard to take weight off.. I have fibromyalgia and complications from lyme disease. I have many gi problems yet to be diagnosed and I do know that protein shakes make me very sick, another reason I'm doing lots of research. I do not have an eating disorder. I simply do not feel hungry. Yesterday I did manage to eat 2 stalks of celery with about 3 tbs hummus, 1 cup coffee with creamer, water, 1 small container unsweetened applesauce. 1/2 piece chicken breast, baked with no skin, mixed veggies, less than half a cup and half a potato with butter, no sour cream. That was a lot for me and I'm very aware of what I'm eating or in this case not eating. Dr. Winer has very good explanations and examples of how some people are pre disposed to weight problems due to genetics. It's not just about what we eat. I am also minus my gall bladder and had to make dietary changes then, low fat and doing good at avoiding processed foods.
on 6/21/15 6:14 pm
It's not the amount of what you are eating, it's what you are eating. If you replace all that fruit and vegetable with lean protiens you would lose now. Look up Ketosis. It's when your body is optimally burning fat. It you are loading in carbs like fruits and vegetables and refined sugars and starches the body will use them for energy before it resorts to your body's own stores(fat) for energy.
"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." --- Dorothy Parker
"You may not like what I say or how I say it, but it may be just exactly what you need to hear." ---Kathryn White
Thank you all for the advice. I will have to go over it again. There is no denial in this situation about what I eat. In fact my doctor has said I do not eat enough. I skip all meals on most days and doc says my body is tricked into thinking I'm in starvation mode she said this will keep the weight on me. Menopause has added a lot of weight and so has my very high cortisol level. Pcp said this makes it hard to take weight off.. I have fibromyalgia and complications from lyme disease. I have many gi problems yet to be diagnosed and I do know that protein shakes make me very sick, another reason I'm doing lots of research. I do not have an eating disorder. I simply do not feel hungry. Yesterday I did manage to eat 2 stalks of celery with about 3 tbs hummus, 1 cup coffee with creamer, water, 1 small container unsweetened applesauce. 1/2 piece chicken breast, baked with no skin, mixed veggies, less than half a cup and half a potato with butter, no sour cream. That was a lot for me and I'm very aware of what I'm eating or in this case not eating. Dr. Winer has very good explanations and examples of how some people are pre disposed to weight problems due to genetics. It's not just about what we eat. I am also minus my gall bladder and had to make dietary changes then, low fat and doing good at avoiding processed foods.
I am really sorry, and this is said with all due respect,but if you never eat,"I skip most all meals every day". You cannot possibly have a BMI of 40. Even genetics won't make you have a BMI of 40 if you are not eating more than your body needs to survive.
You are either fooling yourself or trolling us.
Thank you all for the advice. I will have to go over it again. There is no denial in this situation about what I eat. In fact my doctor has said I do not eat enough. I skip all meals on most days and doc says my body is tricked into thinking I'm in starvation mode she said this will keep the weight on me. Menopause has added a lot of weight and so has my very high cortisol level. Pcp said this makes it hard to take weight off.. I have fibromyalgia and complications from lyme disease. I have many gi problems yet to be diagnosed and I do know that protein shakes make me very sick, another reason I'm doing lots of research. I do not have an eating disorder. I simply do not feel hungry. Yesterday I did manage to eat 2 stalks of celery with about 3 tbs hummus, 1 cup coffee with creamer, water, 1 small container unsweetened applesauce. 1/2 piece chicken breast, baked with no skin, mixed veggies, less than half a cup and half a potato with butter, no sour cream. That was a lot for me and I'm very aware of what I'm eating or in this case not eating. Dr. Winer has very good explanations and examples of how some people are pre disposed to weight problems due to genetics. It's not just about what we eat. I am also minus my gall bladder and had to make dietary changes then, low fat and doing good at avoiding processed foods.
This may be the most ludicrous thing I have ever read. No one becomes obese and qualifies for weight loss surgery by eating too little. If your doctor actually believes this, you need to find a new doctor. I'd never go back to that one.
6'3" tall, male.
Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.
M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.
Based on my personal experiance - high cortisone makes someone very hungry. I am on daily cortisone replacement and I monitor how much to take based on my hunger level. If I am not hungry - don't want to eat- means I did not take enough. You May have disturbed circadian rhythm, like I had. My body made too much cortison during the later part of the day, but enough in the morning, noon time. Finding good endo , really good one, may help.
Before RNY I was eating very healthy... Fruits and veggies, grains, very seldom fried foods, pasta or desserts... All the way to 250 lbs
Now I eat burgers, bacon, Eggs, chicken wings.... And few other foods...
I gave up grains, starchy veggies, most fruits, and desserts.
With my messed up cortisone levels, and with menopause... Low carb - moderate proteins, high fat works for me. Even with RNY - maintaining my weight - at 7 years post op requires a lot of work and planning.
My whole family was MO, and have predisposition to gaining weight.
What I considered healthy 7 years ago...was making me gain weight...or preventing me from losing.
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
on 6/21/15 8:02 am
I was a healthy eater with a heathy appetite. I would eat salads and fruit, vegetable and little protien. Who had room. I was filling up on all the things they told us that were good for us. I didn't have a sweet tooth. Maybe an occasional piece of dark chocolate. Then I ended up to be 360 lbs. So much for the nutritional experts. (When they invented the "all you can eat salad bars" the nation became obese.
I would suggest as the others have to journal your food for 2 weeks. Calories, Carbs and protien down to the cream in your coffee. I will bet you your diet isn't as healthy as you think. We fool ourselves listening to all the so called experts when in reality protien is what a person needs to exist to be healthy. Everything else is crap.
Chili
"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." --- Dorothy Parker
"You may not like what I say or how I say it, but it may be just exactly what you need to hear." ---Kathryn White
p.s. I never said that I never eat sugar. What I stated is, from the research I've been reading, watching, most of it says post surgery you can't have sugar, ever, and that you must live the rest of your life eating 2 ounces per meal. I was asking if in the knowledge and experience of those on here that had the surgery, is this true or not? Thanks!
If you have the sleeve, there's no reason you can't have sugar. The only people who have to watch their sugar intake are those who have RNY, because it can potentially cause what they call "dumping" which basically makes you sick (curled-up-in-the-fetal-position kind of sick, with dizziness, racing heart, nausea, intestinal cramping). Only about 30% of RNYers dump, though, and most of us can eat reasonable amounts of sugar without getting sick.
No, you will not be eating such tiny portions for the rest of your life. Exactly how much you will be able to eat by the time you are a year out depends on how large your surgeon makes your sleeve and the type of food (dense proteins like beef or chicken will make you feel full sooner).
I also recommend measuring and tracking your food for 2 weeks to see how much you are eating. Most people don't realize how small a single portion size is of most things. Menopause and other physcial conditions contribute to obesity, but if you were truly eating healthy foods in small portions, your BMI would not be 40. If what you are saying were true, and it isn't what you are eating or how much of it you are eating that is making you fat, then having VSG won't help you lose weight because all it's going to do is help you eat smaller portions...
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
on 6/21/15 4:00 pm
There is nothing you can't have. Especially if you have a VSG. If you had a bypass there is good chance of dumping syndrome. 2 oz is usually early postop. You have swelling which will make your sleeve smaller. It will stretch a bit. Usually up to a cup some more some less. This is a lifetime commitment to counting your numbers and watching your portions. While it is work it does become second nature of you are committed. It's changing your focus from what you can't have to what you can have. Once you start to reap the rewards like a better body and a healthier lifestyle many don't want to go back to life before surgery. There are many that have long term success and many that don't have the willpower or determination to make it work.
This is a decision you shouldn't go into lightly. Take the time to read and research and decide if it will work for you
"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." --- Dorothy Parker
"You may not like what I say or how I say it, but it may be just exactly what you need to hear." ---Kathryn White
