so hungry
WTF? Potatoes?, smoothies?,beans, fruits? Taco Bell? 1300-1400 calories a day? I'm sorry but that's crazy, the op I believe wants to lose weight, not gain it, losing weight by cutting out meat is not the way to lose weight, implying that you lose weight by cutting out meat is misleading. If you want to go your own way, good for you.
No meat for you, no problem, but the op wants to be satiated, you don't get that from carbs, you get it from dense protein. The only thing you get from eating that many carbs is more hungry.
No one surgery is better than the other, what works for one may not work for another.
T-Rebel
The OP asked for insights on how to stay full during the pre-op stage. I shared what is working for me and what I've changed in my diet. My PCP is very pleased with my weight loss during this time and so am I.
Highest weight 208 in 2008 ** VSG 11/27/15 weight 193 ** Current weight 128 ** Goal weight range 100 -110 ** Height - 4'11" ** Age - 49
Like I said carbs, especially in the amounts you're eating per day as per your post, will leave most people feeling hungry, but if that satiates you, have at it, most people however end feeling more hungry & end up eating more.
No one surgery is better than the other, what works for one may not work for another. T-Rebel
I'm curious, what was your calorie range for your supervised weight loss period? Or is there a standardized calorie range that is usually prescribed? It took me a while to get used to 1300-1400 because I was used to consuming so much more than that.
If I eat bread or noodles I get really hungry shortly after eating, but not when I eat beans or fruit. I think the hunger is satisfied because of the fiber.
Highest weight 208 in 2008 ** VSG 11/27/15 weight 193 ** Current weight 128 ** Goal weight range 100 -110 ** Height - 4'11" ** Age - 49
Fiber is good, its good you're not getting hungry.
I didn't calorie count during my supervised weight loss period. My plan was pretty much concentrated on the particular foods I ate. They gave me a list, it was broken up into categories. Protein was at the top like grilled/baked chicken, then veggies, a list for that, the ones at the top was unlimited, towards the bottom it was eat sparingly like carrots, only cuz of the sugar content, another list dairy, fat free towards the top as I worked my way down same thing as the veggies, so on & so forth it went.
Some foods was definitely frowned upon, like potatoes & rice, bread, etc, mostly because it was high in carbs, it wouldn't fill me up & it was generally high in calories so it would be really easy to go overboard on that.
Like I really like nuts, but that's more like a slider food, it wouldn't fill me up & it would be real easy to go overboard on it, no matter how healthy they are., so that was towards the bottom of the list.
That's why I responded to your post rather than the op, cuz your foods are generally on the high carb side, it totally looked like carb central! lol I understand that your plan leans more to the vegetarian route you're taking, but the op is looking to be satiated & that generally won't come from a carb heavy diet.
I'm just thinking in terms of satiation, without feeling hungry too soon afterwards. Carbs usually get digested by the body really quickly & the body will look to use that for energy, rather than work at using the fat stores in the body, not to mention the work it takes to break down dense protein.
I forgot you are pre-op so your calorie count is probably good for you. I don't know if there's a standardized calorie range. I use my calorie count as a guideline in mfp. I find that as I work my way down I have to adjust my numbers.
No one surgery is better than the other, what works for one may not work for another. T-Rebel
I'm in the 4th month of my supervised weight loss. This is what I do to lose weight and not be hungry all the time. Maybe it will help you.
I eat lots and lots of vegetables and fruits. I eat all variety of beans, lentils, nuts, eggs, cheese, Greek yogurt as my protein sources. I eat whole foods and stay away from processed food as much as possible. I eat potatoes, preferably baked ones and eat the skin because that's where most of the nutrients and fiber are, and whole grains and eggs.
My favorite fast food is Taco Bell but since I only allow myself 2 fast food meals a month I don't get it as much as I used to. To satisfy the craving I eat pinto beans or fat free refried beans with some shredded cheese and Taco Bell hot and mild sauce.
I eat at least three servings of fruit a day, sometimes those are mixed into a green smoothie. I don't find these to be filling enough as a meal, even if I add protein powder, but it will hold me over as a snack between meals. I eat often, about every 3 hours I have something, just enough to get rid of the grumbellies.
I drink lots of fluids- water, unsweetened teas both hot and iced, crystal light lemonade, coffee with 1/2 and 1/2.
Myfitnesspal is a good app to keep a food diary and it's practically effortless. Some people use the food diary to keep them mindful of what they are eating. For me it's just a record. I don't associate any feelings to it. If I go over my calorie goals for the day I don't feel guilty and if I stay under I don't feel elation. For me it's just an accounting of the daily intake.
I started the supervised weight loss in early January. I've lost 18 pounds since then, a bit over a pound a week, simply by cutting meat out of my diet and keeping my calories below my Basal metabolic rate (BMR) which is the amount of energy expended while the body is at rest. It's the amount of calories the body uses just by being alive. http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/ Mine is 1505 so as long as I eat less calories than that each day I lose weight. I find I am not hungry and lose weight if I keep my calorie intake between 1300-1400 calories per day. It took about 2 - 2.5 months to get comfortable with that. I don't exercise and have a very sedentary lifestyle.
My rule of thumb is if I can't pronounce an ingredient on a food package or don't know what it is, I don't eat that item. Some people do well by following the rule if it has more than 5 ingredients they won't eat it.
Good luck! Six months seems like a long time, but it really does go quickly.
Good lord! This is the antithesis of any pre-op plan I've ever heard of.
To the OP, I lost 20 lbs in three weeks pre-op by eating 80 g of solid protein, less than 20 g carbs and drinking plenty of water. Once you detox from the carbs/sugars, the hunger noticeably subsides. Avoid fruits, starchy veggies like potatoes--- and definitely Taco Bell --
"What you eat in private, you wear in public." --- Kat
I know a lot of people have expressed that same sentiment when I share with them what's working for me. But the change in my diet is really more than just cutting out meat, but that is what I tend to focus on.
The PCP wanted me to ditch my highly processed food diet, whi*****luded a lot of meals eaten out, mostly fast food and lots of noodles. So I was prescribed a whole food, minimally processed diet. But I am allowed a couple of cheat meals a month, hence the fast food twice a month. It's a hard habit to break, but I'm finding that I no longer crave it as much as I used to. Probably because I don't eat bread and pasta like I used to and don't eat fried foods nearly as much. They even make me a little sick to my stomach now so I rarely order French fries, mozzarella sticks or potato skins anymore. Going meatless was my decision, and supported by my PCP. Amazingly my body is craving the healthy, nutrient dense foods rather than the junk I was eating all those years. She did suggest I start taking a B12 vitamin supplement. Other than that, we are both really pleased with my weight loss and lab results.
I also shouldn't lose more than a few more pounds or it will disqualify me for surgery because my BMI will drop below 35.
Highest weight 208 in 2008 ** VSG 11/27/15 weight 193 ** Current weight 128 ** Goal weight range 100 -110 ** Height - 4'11" ** Age - 49
I said absolutely nothing about meat in my reply. I could care less where protein comes from. I am simply recommending the long term proven successful eating plan that has been shown to work for WLS PATIENTS. That plan is protein forward -- nothing like the carb festival you've described
Glad yours works for you, but frankly, while 18 lbs is wonderful it is neither as substantial nor proven maintained with your eating plan.
"What you eat in private, you wear in public." --- Kat
Everyone has given some great tips. For me, the combination of protein and fiber is what I find most filling. I haven't gone super-low-carb in my pre-op process, but I'm sure to aim for whole grains instead of refined sugars and to make sure I always have protein with my carbs (as a diabetic, this helps prevent blood sugar spikes too).
Also, is it possible you're restricting your intake too much? Have you had a REE (resting energy expenditure) study? My clinic requires one, and I found out that my metabolic rate was actually unusually high for my age and BMI (150% of expected calorie expenditure). I had been failing for a couple years with calorie restriction because I'd start out trying to drop down to ~1800 calories a day all at once and was just miserable, so I'd give up quickly. After my REE, I started aiming for 2200 and found I could actually stick to it and lose weight. 70 lbs down, I'm still eating a net 2000 calories a day and losing about 2 lbs a week.
