Cheeses: calories, protein, and carb information

You NEVER have anything constructive to add...you pop in to wag your finger and poof you are gone again.

Get Lost. 

Chili and the gang.  Must you attack me?  Why do you feel the need?  I feel so bad for you.  I do.  I pray for you.  I pray that one of these days you are happy and stop feeling the need to be so mean.  Bless your heart.  I have a ton of friends and am well loved. I never have felt the need to bully so I don't get the anger and the endless posts when your cronies come and tag team attack.  Why?  You give good info SOMETIMES, but the usual approach is very biting. One gets more flies with honey than with vinegar.  I am not leaving and you don't scare me.  I feel real bad for you.  I do.  I wonder why in the world is this woman the way she is.  Anger is going to kill you no matter how much you stick to the plan.

Chili is always around trying to help people. YOU are the one who pops in, throws stones at people, and poof, you are gone.

Why do you stalk Chili around the forums? You want to hug her, you want to kiss her . . .

Grim, I have all the respect in the world for you. You manage to get a point across without the snark. You have lost a lot of weight and kept it off, and for that I salute you. I do. I am not stalking the woman. I don't think how she explains things is necessary. You manage to get a point across without ruffling feathers, she ruffles the feathers of many. Not just me.

You NEVER have anything constructive to add...you pop in to wag your finger and poof you are gone again.

Get Lost. 

Chili and the gang.  Must you attack me?  Why do you feel the need?  I feel so bad for you.  I do.  I pray for you.  I pray that one of these days you are happy and stop feeling the need to be so mean.  Bless your heart.  I have a ton of friends and am well loved. I never have felt the need to bully so I don't get the anger and the endless posts when your cronies come and tag team attack.  Why?  You give good info SOMETIMES, but the usual approach is very biting. One gets more flies with honey than with vinegar.  I am not leaving and you don't scare me.  I feel real bad for you.  I do.  I wonder why in the world is this woman the way she is.  Anger is going to kill you no matter how much you stick to the plan.

And.......... deactivated.  GBCF without much of a bang but a whimper.

The thing Chili is that I try to figure people out.  You feel you have the right to bully people.  Why don't you have the guts to post a picture of yourself?  As we all know, it is so easy to be a bully behind a screen name.  There are kazillions thanks to the advent of the Internet. What I want to know is why on God's green earth you feel you can talk to people the way you do?  Did you trade not being able to eat after WLS for anger?  It's unhealthy.  And I am a college grad dear. I am not idiotic and I don't feel the need to preach to people. I never was fat all my life.  Only for the last fifteen years due to medication.  I am also a bleeding heart and always have been.  I love people and they love me back.  You know the saying that one can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar?  Try it some time.  You have good advice to give sometimes but delivering it with a sledgehammer hardly ever works in life.  Why in the world are you always so angry?  It is so unhealthy. 

Can I pop in and raise hell then disappear for a couple more years 

I think vegetarian is very doable post WLS I often have completely vegetarian meals (dairy, eggs, cheese, beans) but vegan... wow that would be hard... at least in those first few months... some major protein sources in vegan diets are not the easiest to digest early on (lay heavy, greens, lentils, some beans) and some veggies aren't cleared for a few weeks at least... and the quantity needed for substantial protein grams would be prohibitive... so a vegan WLS early post op diet would be non-dairy milks, hemp rice pea-type protein powders, tofu, nut butters I guess. Not impossible but very hard at least in the beginning. 

Good you are working closely with a Dr. Best to you in your WLS journey.

~Michelle "Shelly"

Thank you. I think so too.

I do eat meat on rare occasions but plan on phasing it out eventually. Little bit at a time. I have always said I eat a mostly vegetarian diet or that my diet is mostly plant based.  I am considering becoming vegan, but as I've mentioned I like and eat dairy and eggs do that would be my main stumbling block in transitioning from vegetarian to vegan. There are different types of vegetarians, some of us eat dairy and eggs, others eat fish. Sorry if this confuses people. There's lots of info on the web if you're interested in learning more.  There's some cuts of meat I like, but very few so it's fairly easy to cut them out of my diet.  Red meat is so very bad for my heart I make it a special treat if I decide to eat it.  I have looked into a local farm for eggs. I haven't looked for a local cheese maker. I frequented one in Ohio but haven't looked for one in AZ.

"red meat is so very bad for my heart " - please - how is it so? 

you know the recent study shows that fat and proteins are not the cause of heart disease, but carbs are? 

that eating cholesterol does not cause high cholesterol, but eating carb and simple carbs (like in fruits) may cause heart problems? 

my cholesterol went from 200 to 300 when I went on vegan diet for 6 months...(years before my WLS). I also gained a lot of weight... now I eat meat and fat and try to limit starchy veggies and fruits and my cholesterol is low to normal..  I have to eat more fruits and veggies that I wish, to keep my cholesterol above 150... (total number) 

I'm glad your health improved on your chosen lifestyle. I was told to avoid red meat by several doctors over the years.