Cheeses: calories, protein, and carb information

Modest_Phoenix
on 3/19/15 6:48 am
On March 19, 2015 at 1:31 PM Pacific Time, The Mighty Sparklekitty (Julie) wrote:

Medically-/scientifically-incorrect information SHOULD be challenged, regardless of interest.

Misinformation can be dangerous.

When I had a consultation with a surgeon I specifically asked if a vegetarian and vegan diet would help or hinder after wls. His answer was that it would help. It was not fully discussed after that.

Highest weight 208 in 2008 ** VSG 11/27/15 weight 193 ** Current weight 128 ** Goal weight range 100 -110 ** Height - 4'11" ** Age - 49

 
  

Sparklekitty, Science-Loving Derby Hag
on 3/19/15 6:55 am
RNY on 08/05/19

Great that your doctor, based on your case, made a GENERAL suggestion for you. However, it would probably be wise to get more concrete information regarding a specifically WLS-post-op veg*n diet, rather than suggesting (without evidence either way) that a non-WLS-patient veg*n diet is appropriate for you.

The general thought that ANY willy-nilly diet free of animal products will be adequate post-op? Probably not true.

Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!

Modest_Phoenix
on 3/19/15 7:40 am

Not once have I said anyone else should do this.  Simply stating my path.  I expect everyone else to do as they see fit.

Highest weight 208 in 2008 ** VSG 11/27/15 weight 193 ** Current weight 128 ** Goal weight range 100 -110 ** Height - 4'11" ** Age - 49

 
  

Paul C.
on 3/19/15 11:25 pm - Cumming, GA

The whole special post op long term way of life is complete crap and one of the reasons I initially left this site.  I know many postop people that live with a very normal diet but simply eat smaller portions.  The key is to get in the appropriate amount of protein and keep the carb and fats within an acceptable ratio.

 

As post ops they say 65grams of protein  if I ate only 65grams a day I would be in serious pain and have ZERO energy.  my protein intake is typically 2-2.5 times the Doctors limit.  There actaually is a formula that can be used to find out how many grams an individual should get.

 

The Low carb/no carb  I choose to eat low carb but if I want a cookie you know what?  I EAT IT.  Low Fat? heck no....  I make my sugar free jello pudding with Half and Half and heavy cream... I eat Panacotta made with heavy cream.  

 

Will my diet work for everyone?  NO the reason is because not everyone does the same things I do.  My Food is fuel for my body and while training my body utilizes Fat rather than carbs.  I can run for 2 hours with zero need for additional nutrition I have biked 70 Miles on 400 calories and Zero carbs.

 

Each of our bodies is Unique and we need to find what works for us as individuals.  The key is education in our decisions and applying what WE BELIEVE best for us.  Had I listened to My Surgeons staff I never would have ran more than 5K, because their logic was NO to do that you have to eat carbs and they are bad!

Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
      First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
PR 2:24:35)   
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
gaia12141
on 3/19/15 10:45 am

I just wanted to say that I was very surprised to see you receiving so many discourteous replies here, and am sorry you haven't been feeling welcome.  I don't see anything wrong with this post at all, you're simply volunteering info that folks can disregard, and speaking from your own experience.  Please feel free to message me anytime if I can support you.  :)

Surgery date: 2/4/15    Surgeon: Ozanan Meireles, MD, Mass General Hospital

HW/284   SW/250   CW/185   GW/150       

    

Modest_Phoenix
on 3/19/15 11:01 am

Thank you. 

Highest weight 208 in 2008 ** VSG 11/27/15 weight 193 ** Current weight 128 ** Goal weight range 100 -110 ** Height - 4'11" ** Age - 49

 
  

Paul C.
on 3/19/15 11:27 pm - Cumming, GA

Do your research and do what is right for you!  With knowledge you can live any lifestyle you want.  If things don't work or you hit issues you reassess and adapt.  This is a chance to make you life what you want it to be...

 

ENJOY IT!

Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
      First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
PR 2:24:35)   
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
Modest_Phoenix
on 3/20/15 6:29 am

I completely agree.  Well said.  Thank you. I plan to enjoy many added years to my life after I have the surgery.  Heck, I enjoy my life a whole lot now so it may be even better later. 

Highest weight 208 in 2008 ** VSG 11/27/15 weight 193 ** Current weight 128 ** Goal weight range 100 -110 ** Height - 4'11" ** Age - 49

 
  

(deactivated member)
on 3/19/15 12:05 pm, edited 3/19/15 12:09 pm

On March 19, 2015 at 5:45 PM Pacific Time, gaia12141 wrote:

I just wanted to say that I was very surprised to see you receiving so many discourteous replies here, and am sorry you haven't been feeling welcome.  I don't see anything wrong with this post at all, you're simply volunteering info that folks can disregard, and speaking from your own experience.  Please feel free to message me anytime if I can support you.  :)

That's why I rarely post on this forum.  A lot of vets are successful, yes.  But some use sledgehammers instead of explaining in commonsense courteous ways, their own point of view.  And some will tag team in an endless loop argument till a thread has ninety replies. 

Chilipepper
on 3/19/15 2:54 pm

You NEVER have anything constructive to add...you pop in to wag your finger and poof you are gone again.

Get Lost. 

 

"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." --- Dorothy Parker  

"You may not like what I say or how I say it, but it may be just exactly what you need to hear." ---Kathryn White

 

 

×