Information please people!

You just don't get it! We WANT to help and are just telling you how YOU can help us do it effectively! Good to see other newbies posting to say they DO understand. No-one is being critical. Until you jumped in with your judgement, no-one said anything aggressive. 

I do understand , and I do get that you want to help , but ...my only issue was with the very first post and the tone of it , maybe im not making myself clear enough . Again ...I apologise for pointing out how I felt when I read it . The first poster said she couldnt begin to say how irked she was by newbies not posting enough details . How you guys are not psychic , for the love of all that is Holy can we please post our details !!! And so on .......me being a newbie , felt she was annoyed that she had to bother to post that ! Yes ...again ..it was a goid suggestion ....I agreed .....but the tone could be more patient . Am I wrong ?? Maybe ..maybe im over sensitive .....but listen ....there are gonna be newbies joining this site every single day ! Are you gonna keep posting up that you are irked at how people are not putting enough detail in their posts ? Because you can guarantee that this will happen always !!Or ....like MANY MANY others ...are you gonna just patiently reply again and again because you realise this is an open forum where people post new every day and we are all learning how to use it . I know which I appreciate more . And thats not to say I dont value everyones opinion , I do . But ...it seems that you dont get mine . Maybe aggressive was the wrong word to use , I apologise for that . But it was condescending , in my opinion . 

Jax x

Yes, you are oversensitive ...

I look forward to knowing you when you are 10 years out from your surgery and are still here answering questions!   (from a statistical standpoint, you won't be here six to twelve months after your surgery)  For every one of us still on here, there are many MANY thousands who have disappeared after they got what they want.   The vast majority of people do NOT payback!   Telling vets NOT to come here and answer questions is the most foolhardy statement of this whole thread!

This started as a post to ask people to give a little more information if they want advice and has turned into the (Easily) Pissed Off Jax Show - good job!

Where in my post did I tell vets not to come and give advice ? I said it was not a job so why get upset when you see people not posting correctly . Totally get the whole advice on 'how to 'thing . Got it ! Just the tone was off . 

And how ' statistically ' will I not be here in six to twelve months ??????? How on earth can you come to that conclusion ? All ive done here is voice my opinion about how I felt when I read a post . You are really making this feel personal . 

Never once have i said I did not value anyone elses opinion . Because I do . I just feel there is a way to say things without making othere uncomfortable. 

I feel really uncomfortable now  ! 

Again ...thanks for your opinion .

Jax x

I feel really uncomfortable and unappreciated right now too ...     (See what I did then?) 

Saying it was not a job made it sound like it's not worthy and why should we bother ...  I'm deeply offended and uncomfortable about that statement n(See what I did then?)

Statistically ...   that word was meant to de-personalise the statement that you would not come back after 6-12 months because most don't!  You may well be the exception and if you are, we can have a good laugh about this in a few years and YOU start a thread asking for the same things Hislady did!  At this point, you think you would never do anything as aggressive as Hislady (hard not to laugh as I type that - if you "knew" her, you would know why)

You are making me feel uncomfortable with your constant attacks against me.  (See what I did then?)

Thanks for your opinion - they all count!

Kim x

Great thanks , no worries 

Jax x

I will attempt to explain in another way. First, I am not a vet. I am almost three years out, so I am more of a journeyman.

There really was no tone in Hislady's original post. In the time I have been here, I too have seen many vague posts without enough information given for anyone to help. Hislady is simply saying please give us basic information, and if we ask clarifying questions, answer them. Too many times there are posts to the effect of "Help! Weight Loss Stalled" but the poster does not include type of surgery, how far out he or she is, and what his or her daily diet and water intake looks like, which makes it very difficult for any of us to offer any practical advice beyond a 'there, there, dear' hand pat--and that is as useless as teats on a boar!

Kim is correct as well. We often see people come here, post like mad, then fade away between months six and twelve, never to be seen or heard from again. Those that stick around do so out of a desire to help, as they were helped in the beginning.

When I was a newly minted postop, I sometimes had a feeling everyone knew something I didn't and that I would ask stupid questions. Well, lots of people knew things I didn't--such is life--and I did ask some dumb questions. There is a learning curve for all of us, and that is A-Okay. It is more important to keep an open mind and hear what people are saying and the intent behind the information than a possibly misconstrued tone. If you can set aside your squashed feelings, you will see this is a pretty good place with lots of helpful people.

There is really only one person I consider a malicious poster, and she hasn't shown up in this thread yet.

It looks like no matter what you say, you're going to get attacked... I've noticed that this happens a lot on here. My advice would be to overlook posts like the original one up at the top and do and post how YOU want.

I personally don't think you're too sensitive at all. I appreciate you saying how the posts came across, because it came across that way to me as well, but you just have to move around stuff like that.

Thanks Tereasa ,Looks that way eh ? 

Fingers defo burned !! Will keep my mouth shut and just surf from now on . Every day is a school day ! Lol ......thank you though , was feeling I going crazy there for a minute !! Love this forum but will definitely move on past things that could end up like this . Doesnt feel very nice ......there I go again being over emotional ! 

Jax x

And you don't see this as rude and condescending or in any way inflammatory?

Pot - meet Kettle!