SOME ONE PLEASE HELP !

Pat said that Reed only does them in 2 steps 1 year apart.  Reed is his surgeon so I'd be talking to him first to see but this OP seems to think we should be giving him all the answers instead of him doing anything himself.

I would have good faith in both Reed and Hong, especially Hong. MY concern is that he's waiting 'til the week of freakin' surgery to make everyone give him information! 

 was that refered to me ? lol OP what does that mean ?

Hi Craig,

I am three-plus years post-op and have not had the first problem.  There are lots of us out here.

I think that while this board is so very helpful, that it can also be a little misleading with regard to the problems associated with weight loss surgery.

I think that most folks who are problem free generally don't post because what are they going to post about really?  I think people with issues do, to a larger degree, post here because they are looking for answers, reassurance and/or support.

Wishing you the best and look forward to hearing about your incredible journey when you're on the other side.

 craig - definitely check out the Ontario forum - its under "International"...you''ll get the best info there on what's happening in Ontario. I know I've received invaluable info from the BC boatd about our surgeons and their programs)

you'll get good results from any of the surgeries if you stick to the plan your surgeon sets for you - people have had reductions in diabetic risk from all three surgeries as well as reductions in cholesterol, triglycerides and blood pressure.  DS leads to the most overall nutritional deficits post surgery, VSG the least. On average weight is lost faster using DS, but people who fall into the super-morbidly obese category have been successful with all three.

RNY is the gold standard still, but each patient has to decide with their surgeon which will suit them best

(I'm getting VSG, which is covered in BC - I personally would never get a DS, but that's my choice).

TALK to your surgeon or bariatric specialist about the options, but remember - there are risks associated with waiting for surgery just as there are risks with the surgery. The wait list in Ontario is at an all time high now, especially since they stopped sending patients across the border..

Okay everyone last question for the moment, first i would like to thank everyone for the support and there helpful knowledge, i know some of you suggested the DS over the RNY but after doing my research i am inclined to at least start of slow and go with the RNY yes because the one thing that people fail to see is the obvious, RNY has been done for many years so doctors know a whole lot more about it then they do about the DS if i would have a complication i would hate for doctors to be scratching there head saying thats a new one , lol and DS may have a few ups but is it really worth the trade. but still i respect everyones choice and of course i did ask and then i researched which i hadn't done because of the lack of information until i came to this site and all you have been graciously helpful people who have helped open my eyes , so again to all of you THANK YOU ! my next question is i have always been an active person , love basketball, I asked my doctor, Dr. Reed, once i'm healed is there things i can't do ? he said no and i replied so i can sign up to fight in the UFC and he said yes what ever you want to do there are know restrictions once you have healed properly . so my question to everyone is this true ? can a person after having RNY surgery and being fully healed have a very normal active life, meaning play football , become a weight lifter and so on , yes i know exercising is part of the process but i'm not talking about when the family comes over and you go for a walk around the block after dinner or when your family comes over for a barbecue and your playing batman in the backyard or throwing a softball in the yard with the kids, i am talking more aggressive behaviour like play hockey if i choose or any contact sports for that matter, are we limited ?

You can do anything you think or try, there are no limits, I do things I would never dream of doing when I was MO.  My surgeon said when I left the hospital that I could do anything I wanted the minute I left the door, I said but don't I need to heal and he said there is nothing you can do that lifting your nearly 300lb ass out of a chair is gonna do on the pulling and tugging of the stitches.  I didn't go nuts but now I troop through miles of trails and walk down endless railroad tracks following my passion for nature photography.  Something that never happened when I was MO.

The DS has been performed for 20 plus years. And just because the RNY has a slightly longer track record... its long term track record is not as good as the DS. The DS allows for more normal lifestyle, less chance of hypo glycemia, dumping, no food getting stuck, no stretched stoma. The list is there.

And no one fails to see the RNY has been done longer. Do you know why more of them are still done than the DS. Because they can do multiple RNY in a day for the DS one a day is about it. Its all a MONEY issue. Not because of the surgery itself.

AND it is starting to be seen that the RNY needs a vitamin regimine almost as agressive as the DS now for proper health. DS needs more of certain vitamins while the RNY needs more of others. The DS has lasting malabsorption of both calories and nutrients. The RNY only has malabsorption of calories for roughly 24 months and life long nutrient malabsorption. Thus why the DS has a better long term stat.

I know many people that had RNY and gained all their weight back. I'm over 6.5 years post DS and its been nothing but good to me. And I am glad I walked away from the other surgeries.

 do you have a lot of diaharrea ? how much do you spend on protien a month ? i spoke to the nurse in hamilton for dr. dennis hong who does the DS she said that he does maybe 3 a year its an very invase surgery and the side effects are a little more in the beggining than RNY but if i didnt want the RNY it was my choice just call my doctor and tell him i would like another consult to discuss my other options but the wait list is long ..... 

Diaharrea...I had it at the hospital (common with DS & RNY). Havent had a problem since. I eat all my protien so I buy foods with high protien amounts.

Please very invasive....every surgery is invasive do not buy the "least invasive BS". Lets see DS & RNY both cut the stomach and intestines and reroute. Just each is done in a different manner and the DS takes a more skilled surgeon because the duodeanum is difficult and tedious to suture.

Personally I know folks who are so limited in what they can eat from the RNY, I'll take the DS side effects. But I want to know what side effects they tried to tell you. Because most of thoes side effects are the same as the RNY, well except thoes that are directly related to the pouch of the RNY. And the vitamin defiencies are different.