dumping = what happens to you? TMI

I keep reading about people that dump but everyone seems to get different symptoms and I feel like I am alone in my symptoms - just curious.  I know I am differnt then most because I lost too much weight and had to gain some back which I did but to sustain my weight I have to eat high calorie foods, this is very difficult for me because lately if I eat too much sugar or too much fat I get the most discusting and fowl diarhea I have ever seen and it goes on for hours.  I am sorry to be gross but it really is.  I can sit there for 20 minutes and it doesn't stop - it is massive.  But that is the only symptoms I get other than sometimes I will get some pretty bad abdominal pain with it and once empty the pain goes away - I think that is part of since my perforated colon, my incision is very sensitive and once I have BM's the pain goes away.

Dumping for me..and yes, I still have it at nearly 10 yrs out, ...fast heartrate, cramps left lower abdoman, sweats, nausea, severe fatigue, have to lie down (if at all possible) 15-30 minutes. Sometimes have loose stools, but not usually.

I normally only dump if something sneaks up on me-like if something was pre-made and I couldn't read the label. Sugar alcohols get me way worse than natural sugar does. Any cereal/milk combo is a killer for me. Homemade ice cream will be a "forever never", I'm afraid.

I still get the "foamies" if I eat too quickly, or talk when I should have been chewing-some things never change!

The "foul" smell of gas/stool normally from undigested carbs. 20 minutes of true "diarrhea" seems like an awful lot (30+ yr nurse here), and could sure lead to dehydration, etc. You've told your doc about this-RIGHT?

It depends how much and what it was. 
I don't get the full dumping anymore, since I am really careful what and how much I eat. But I do get partial dumping.  If by mistake I get a little bit too much fat or carbs (and the "too much" varies from day to day) I may get nausea, with or without cramps. Some times really bad heart palpitation, or feeling lightheaded. Sometimes get really hot.  There are times that I get very fast BM, but most of times the BM will happen in 2-6 hrs, and it is different that normal BM (foamy - very loose and gassy). Most of the time I also get a lot of gas and get really bloated for at least a day or 2.  

• I searched the 'net for healthy high calorie foods.....here's a bunch.....  Stick to the healthy high calories, rather than filling up with junk empty calories and you should do OK
• Granola (homemade is best)
• Lara bars
• Beans
• Whole-grain pasta and bread
• Eggs (in place of egg whites)
• Dried fruit
• Protein powder (soy or whey)
• Bananas
• Fruit juices and smoothies
• Organic nut butters (almond, peanut, cashew)

• Fats

• Olives
• Avacodo
• Butter
• Non-hydrogenated spreads
• Olive oil
• Cream cheese
• Mayo
• Sour cream
• Heavy whipping cream
• Blue cheese dressing
• Creamy dressings

Carbs

• Grape nuts
• Granola
• Granola bars
• Lara bars
• Organic food bars
• Kind bars
• (You get the picture...BARS!)
• Shredded wheat
• Tortillas
• Grainy breads
• Bagels
• Crackers
• Seeded crispbread
• Bananas
• Grapes
• Dried fruits
• Brown Rice
• Oatmeal
• Barley
• Quinoa
• Homemade baked goods
• Yams
• Potatoes/natural chips
• Fritos/tortilla chips
• Sesame sticks
• Corn nuts
• Peas
• Corn
• Beans/Refried beans
• Chestnuts
• Mollasses
• Honey
• Maple Syrup
• Raw cane sugar
• All-fruit jellies/preserves
• Ketchup
• Relish
• BBQ sauce
• Steak Sauce

Proteins

• Beans/Refried beans
• Hummus
• Salmon
• Tuna canned in oil
• Sardines canned in oil
• Dark meat chicken w/skin
• Red meat
• Full-fat tofu marinades (you can find these at larger stores...much higher cal than regular tofu!)
• Whole eggs
• Cheese
• Evaporated whole milk/powdered milk
• Greek/Whole milk yogurt
• Protein Powders

Drinks

• Whole milk
• Fruit Juices
• Carnation instant breakfasts
• Ensure
• Boost
• Slimfast shakes (actually have similar cals to ensure/boost!)
• Naked Protein Sh

OK... I know you mean well...but most of the food you listed I would dump on... heaviily dump on... so unless you deal with dumping and severe RH... and knowo how it affects some people a year or 2 post op RNY... you may becareful what yo suggest a person eat.

i.e. any grains- I will either dump on or get RH
milk, juices - big dump( kind of: kill me now and be done with dumping)
corn - o yea... sick like a dog dump
bars - some of the one you listed have way too many sugars and carbs( i.e. Kind,  granola, etc).

I knwo you man welll - but that food maybe good for "normal" people, or VSG ... but not RNY, at least for most of us.

Seriously, HB?

I was giving the originator of this thread suggestions for health high calorie foods.  If YOU can't eat them, then don't - just pick the ones you can eat.

She may be able to eat some of them; her situation is different than yours, as all our situations are different.

I am 2 years out from surgery, 5 lbs from my goal, have lost half my body weight, blah, blah...... I search many sites, have found and experiment with many alternate healthy foods, don't buy processed boxed junk, don't do fast food joints, avoid fats and bad carbs (bread, potatoes, rice, crackers, etc.).  I convert recipes to wls recipes and feed these to my family; no harm done in them eating healthier as well.

I follow 'the rules' - no drinking after meals, eat high protein 'clean' foods, 5-6 planned meals, etc.  Also follow the 5-5-5 rules, which most Americans haven't been taught.  

And if you are interested, the 5-5-5 rule is good for everyone..... look at labels - don't buy it if the serving has more than 5 grams sugar or 5 grams fat; OK to buy if it has over 5 grams protein.

I like adding protein shakes to my daily routine; I buy protein bars that meet the 5-5-5 criteria, so although I am not an expert, I do believe I have a bit of knowledge on what I'm doing.

yea... but you replied to my post. Not to her.  So I assumed you were giving me the advice.

it may have been situated under your post but she replied to my post. Did you get the post e-mail to you? I did. that is how i know she responded to me. The boards are hard to interpret when alot of people all answer at one time - they just print the responses all in a row so you can't tell who they are responding to. The only true way to know if they are responding to you is to click the box that says notify me when someone replies to my e-mail - that way you know they are responding to you and not someone else.

But this person did respond to me and not you

I can't eat most of the things she suggested either but I apprecite the fact that she tried

I got the email. That's why I responded. And her answer shows under mine as her response to me. As yours did. I also got notification of another post she replayed to me instead of OP.

sorry I misunderstood, I don't understand why we would both get the notification