Losing Custody of Super Obese Kids....
I hated gym. Sad about that, because it *could* have been fun if I weren't so self-conscience of my weight, even at that young an age. I DID like recess, however. Social time. lol
Karen
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As usual, they are making sweeping generalizations and suggesting policy change based on them.
I grew up in a loving but poor home in a family full of overweight/obese adults. I wonder if my family would have fallen under these guidelines which suggest removing children from the home? I personally would not have been, but my brother who went to weigh****chers for the first time at age seven, certainly would have.
In most cases, obesity is much more complicated than having a negligent parent....
I grew up in a loving but poor home in a family full of overweight/obese adults. I wonder if my family would have fallen under these guidelines which suggest removing children from the home? I personally would not have been, but my brother who went to weigh****chers for the first time at age seven, certainly would have.
In most cases, obesity is much more complicated than having a negligent parent....
Marilyn (now in NM)
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Dr. Phil did some shows on this several years ago. The children involved in those cases were fed whatever they wanted and huge quantities of it, despite the fact that those children were often under the age of 5. Many of the parents were obese or moridly obese, to boot.
My cousin, who now weighs over 400 pounds was 150 pounds when she was 7. She's 56. Hormones in the food were not a problem in the early 60's. However, her immense hunger and her mother's willingness to let her eat whatever she wanted (7 giant Hershey's bar in one sitting at the age of 6) were.
My cousin, who now weighs over 400 pounds was 150 pounds when she was 7. She's 56. Hormones in the food were not a problem in the early 60's. However, her immense hunger and her mother's willingness to let her eat whatever she wanted (7 giant Hershey's bar in one sitting at the age of 6) were.
"her immense hunger"
Which was not caused by bad parenting but by biology.
If you have a child who is hungry all the time, what do you?
Tell them they aren't hungry or it's not "time" to eat so they become divorced from their bodies and learn to ignore their own body cues? This can lead to them ignoring their body cues in other ways and being told your feelings are wrong can lead to not trusting yourself and being talked into doing things you shouldn't.
Do you fight with them over food all the time while they are crying they are hungry? That's very hard to do -- we are hard-wired to feed our children when they exhibit signs of hunger -- and at some point you may give up. (I suspect your cousin's mom is in that group.)
Do you try to shame them about their weight so that the have incentive to ignore their own hunger to fit in? We know shaming doesn't work and just causes other problems.
I am not being flip, btw. These are things I struggle with when it comes to my own children. I know that what my parents did with me (which are many of the things parents are still being told to do) did not work. Shame didn't work. Convincing me to diet made everything worse. Encouraging me to be more active didn't work (my body fought to be at rest and I saw myself as a brainiac and not a "jock"). Controlling my food didn't work. So I know a lot of things that don't work but I don't know what does work and I don't think anyone else does either.
You can teach them what healthy eating is and that will help. You can encourage them to be active and that will help. But there are obese people who eat healthy foods and who are active so it's not a cure-all.
Obesity is a disease and needs to be treated as such and not as a moral issue.
Which was not caused by bad parenting but by biology.
If you have a child who is hungry all the time, what do you?
Tell them they aren't hungry or it's not "time" to eat so they become divorced from their bodies and learn to ignore their own body cues? This can lead to them ignoring their body cues in other ways and being told your feelings are wrong can lead to not trusting yourself and being talked into doing things you shouldn't.
Do you fight with them over food all the time while they are crying they are hungry? That's very hard to do -- we are hard-wired to feed our children when they exhibit signs of hunger -- and at some point you may give up. (I suspect your cousin's mom is in that group.)
Do you try to shame them about their weight so that the have incentive to ignore their own hunger to fit in? We know shaming doesn't work and just causes other problems.
I am not being flip, btw. These are things I struggle with when it comes to my own children. I know that what my parents did with me (which are many of the things parents are still being told to do) did not work. Shame didn't work. Convincing me to diet made everything worse. Encouraging me to be more active didn't work (my body fought to be at rest and I saw myself as a brainiac and not a "jock"). Controlling my food didn't work. So I know a lot of things that don't work but I don't know what does work and I don't think anyone else does either.
You can teach them what healthy eating is and that will help. You can encourage them to be active and that will help. But there are obese people who eat healthy foods and who are active so it's not a cure-all.
Obesity is a disease and needs to be treated as such and not as a moral issue.
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I didn't say it should be treated as a moral condition, nor did I suggest that she tell her child to ignore her hunger, nor shame her. I would suggest that letting her have 7 large chocolate bars to eat at one time was not a good concept.
I was suggesting that for some caregivers totally abdicated the idea of showing your children proper eating habits and food choices.
I was suggesting that for some caregivers totally abdicated the idea of showing your children proper eating habits and food choices.
omG NO!!!!! thats just horibIe. I was obese from birth til my surgery... and my parents tried everything to heIp me Iose weight... richard simmons, a private nutrioinist, gyms, diets EVERYTHING.... i would Iose some at first but i just couIdnt keep it off and or stick to it..... sometimes its not the parents fauIt at aII.... 
It took me a long time not to judge myself through someone else's eyes.
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According To Your Faith Be It Unto You. Matthew 9:29
It is a beautiful day out today. The sun shining and the temp is perfect with
a nice breeze.
Yet here I sit in my house with me on the computer reading about
obese kids and my chubby 15 year old is watching tv. Obviously I have
not learned anything yet, so I will see you all when the weather is bad.
Taking my kid for a walk.
Dani
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