Daily Atheist Devotional #196 (Devil Dog Edition)

Neeven Soodyall
on 1/27/11 3:05 am - Surrey, Canada
Neeven Soodyall
on 1/27/11 3:07 am - Surrey, Canada
GinaMariee, I am a pedant precisely because I want no ambiguity when I want to get a point across. If you throw caution to the wind, it becomes a bit of a lottery what people understand you to have said. Misuse of language begs the question of how seriously to take its speaker. I am unapologetic in my preference for the proper use of grammar, punctuation and words.

I am indeed all of the above though I've had a re-think on the use of the term heathen to describe myself. It is just another term for non-Christian, non-Jew or non-Muslim, again, something one is not.

When I said 'we', I was referring to the secular community at large--not the people both secular and otherwise--*****ad and comment on LeAnn's posts.
LeaAnn
on 1/25/11 10:03 am - Huntsville, AL
On January 25, 2011 at 5:06 PM Pacific Time, Neeven Soodyall wrote:
That is only correct if you want rather negatively to describe us as something that we are not namely, non-theists (if your skin is Black, Brown or a variety of shades in-between, do you hold your head up high when called 'non-White'?). Referring to us as atheists is a bit of a disingenuous posture because it assumes that theism is the yardstick against which we are all measured, thereby giving theism undeserved credibility. And what exactly is credible about a large number of people taking for granted a wild, unprovable claim that there is a god? Believers don't exactly deserve a pat on the back for that, rather a slap upside the head for not demanding proof. Most of us prefer to describe ourselves more positively as something that we actually are. Therefore, we're a.k.a. ("also known as," if you're pedantic about using abbreviations correctly) intellectuals, philosophers, skeptics, rational thinkers, secularists and heathens.
Where's that damn *like* button?!  haha!
VictoriousSecret
on 1/25/11 10:37 am
This is a very interesting way of looking at things.  I am proud to say I'm an atheist (something that took me a long time, especially living in the South and getting so much crap from everyone).  But I will marinate on your thoughts about "the yardstick against which we are all measured".  Very interesting.  Thanks for posting!

     

Temporarily holding on losing more because I'm gaining!  Pregnant with my first baby (a boy!) due June 2013, after two rounds of IVF.  SO GRATEFUL!

GinaMariee
on 1/25/11 10:42 am - IN
Might i ask...What lead you to become atheist? I know its not exactly something that happens overnight, so you can just do the readers digest version, if you dont mind me asking.

~Life is too short to live with regrets. So, love the people who treat you right, forget the ones that dont. Remember EVERYTHING happens for a reason. If you get a chance, take it. If it changes your life, LET IT!~

LeaAnn
on 1/25/11 11:01 am - Huntsville, AL
On January 25, 2011 at 6:42 PM Pacific Time, GinaMariee wrote:
Might i ask...What lead you to become atheist? I know its not exactly something that happens overnight, so you can just do the readers digest version, if you dont mind me asking.
Baloney.  We're ALL BORN atheist.  We are ALL atheists until we're indoctrinated otherwise.  What prompted you to become a xian (I'm assuming).  Could it BE you were indoctrinated by your parents?  If you were born to Muslim parents, I bet you'd be a Muslim.

My indoctrination just didn't take.  Since I was old enough to realize Santa couldn't possibly visit every home in one night and that reindeer can't fly, I figured out that religion is fairy tales, too.
GinaMariee
on 1/25/11 11:04 am - IN
Well, considering she stated "it took her a long time", i assume she had SOME sort of religion or faith being taught to her. Yes, i am Christian (sorry, ive never heard of the term xian before, so not sure exactly what it means), and i believe in God. do i believe you should believe in God? Nope.

~Life is too short to live with regrets. So, love the people who treat you right, forget the ones that dont. Remember EVERYTHING happens for a reason. If you get a chance, take it. If it changes your life, LET IT!~

Elizabeth N.
on 1/25/11 9:50 pm - Burlington County, NJ
The use of the letter "x" in place of "Christ" has a long and venerable history dating back to the early believers. It is the Anglicized version of the Greek letter χ ("chi") which is the first letter of  Χριστός ("Christos" or "Khristos"), from which we get "Christ."
tphillipslaw
on 1/25/11 11:05 pm
RNY on 01/12/09 with
Good info.  My family members and many other people I know get extremely offended when one places an x in christian, hence xtian.  God, if you say happy x-mas, they get in an uproar. 

So based on what you described above, there is no reason for christians to get so offended when x in used in the spelling of the word? 
LeaAnn
on 1/25/11 11:18 pm - Huntsville, AL
That is correct.

But as is pretty commonly accepted, xian folks don't really NEED a good reason to be offended in order to be offended.
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