** WHY EAT AROUND YOUR SURGERY***

DrHollywood
on 1/12/11 3:52 am - Harbor City, CA
What part of I am in FEAR dont you understand? 
I dont want to eat around the surgery.  DID I SAY I WAS NEVER GOING TO DO SO?

I thank you for your response, and a long one indeed.  

I love the saying,  point a finger and 3 are pointing right back at ya!

get on your hands and knees... giggles...  kidding...  

I just fear eating around the surgery. I am a food addict

I wish you all the success in your recovery journey

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                         "Keeping The Faith!"   "Slim by Summer!"
                                    HW: 250 - SW: 241  - CW: 154.7GW: 140  

     
 1 month: 22 pounds (2162 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8)  3 months: 10.6  (193.2)
 4 months: 9.7  lbs  (183.5)  5 Months:   6  pounds  (177.5 ) 
6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
 7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!!  2.6 pounds (148.4)


  
                                  Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011   (199.7)

                                  "Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)

                                  "Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011  (189.6)

                                   "Groovyland 70`s"  June 20th 2011  (179.9)

                                    " HippyDippyland 60's"  July 16th  (169.8)

                                       " CQQL-land 50`s"  August 25th ( 159.8)

                        "Normal BMI"   24.8  October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6

                                 "AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                              "Century Club 100 Pounds"  Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                                        ' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"

                                           Two Year Surgiversary!!!"


                                                                     

MsBatt
on 1/13/11 5:12 am
On January 12, 2011 at 11:52 AM Pacific Time, DrHollywood wrote:
What part of I am in FEAR dont you understand? 
I dont want to eat around the surgery.  DID I SAY I WAS NEVER GOING TO DO SO?

I thank you for your response, and a long one indeed.  

I love the saying,  point a finger and 3 are pointing right back at ya!

get on your hands and knees... giggles...  kidding...  

I just fear eating around the surgery. I am a food addict

I wish you all the success in your recovery journey
I totally understand what you're saying here. I had the same fear, pre-op.

At age 45, I'd been dieting for THIRTY-FIVE years, and I knew---I was NOT good at it. I could NOT stick to a diet, long-term, which is why I always regained everything I'd lost. And I knew that surgery on  my stomach wasn't going to change my brain.

I KNEW that there was no way I could spend the rest of my life denying myself the foods I loved. I knew I would once again eat cheesecake, ice cream, cheeseburgers, pizza, etc.---so I chose a surgery that was okay with that.

I had the DS. Like the VSG, it removed 85% of my stomach, giving me something I'd never had before---portion control AND satiety. And it got rid of my unceasing, grinding hunger.

And it gave me significant, permanent malabsorption of calories. Unlike pre-op, my body now actually NEEDS about 3000 calories a day to maintain itself. And at seven years post-op, I'm eating that much and STILL losing a pound here and there.

I KNEW I would fail if I set myself up to have to count calories and stay away from "bad" foods. Nothing makes me want something like telling me I can't have it. Tell me I can't eat a cow pattie, and what do I immediately want? Yep, that's right---a cow pattie, preferably with cheese on top.(*grin*)

You want to know why post-ops eat things that they "shouldn't"? They're human, and eating is a pleasure. If it was as easy as just saying "Oh, I'm never going to eat THAT," then I imagine most of us would never have had a weight problem.

Lady Lithia
on 1/12/11 9:03 am
Cheese cake is YUMMY. That is why I eat a teeny portion every now and again. Why not? 
I probably have the equivalent to one mini cheesecake every six months.... which is to say four mini slices over a six month period. Haven't regained yet.

Potato chips knock me into a carb coma.... BAD for me. I avoid them. My choices are based on MY needs. I choose to eat what I want (for myself because I'm too thin), and because this isNOT a diet. This is my life. And my life includes an indulgence now and again. As long as it doesn't make me dump, and I don't regain, what is wrong with it. Not everything I ever eat is just for the promotion of nutrition.. Some is for pleasure too.

I tried a mini candy bar at Halloween because it was there adn it was tempting, and I was tempted. I had enough faith in myself to believe that I could try that candy bar and NOT eat the entire bag. You know what? I was right to have faith and trust in myself. NOT everyone can do that. It didn't kill me. It didn't make me regain. It gave my deprived mouth pleasure. It brought me to a new sense of my LIFE that was ahead of me, and that I could have a tiny indulgence here and there, enjoy it, and not go hogwild. I think it was a GOOD moment for me. I might have taken longer to get to goal than if I didn't enjoy chocolate..... but I still got to goal and enjoyed doing it. What's wrong with that? 

I'm not abusing my surgery. I'm savoring the freedom to eat like any normal thin human being. I'm honoring my surgery by not allowing it to RUN MY LIFE.

Feel free to avoid candy.... that is entirely your purview. Me...I'm going to enjoy chocolate pretty much every day of my life. So what if I eventually stop losing and gain back 15 pounds (my goal, actually, to gain back 15 pounds).... if I can weight 15 lbs more than what I do now AND eat chocolate every day of my life, I'm the winner.

~Lady Lithia~ 200 lbs lost! 
March 9, 2011 - Coccygectomy!
I chased my dreams, and my dreams, they caught me!
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Lisey
on 1/11/11 2:11 pm - Milwaukee suburb, WI
In a nutshell, for most people, I suspect it's a long-ingrained pattern of using food as a go-to for any number of reasons that all amount to comfort &/ or satisfaction in the moment.  That's a HARD habit to break.  Some people are very successful at it, some are fairly successful, some are so-so, and some are totally non-compliant.  I think finding an alternative activity THAT YOU ENJOY is very important for those moments.  Changing your routine can be helpful.

HW / SW / CW / GW      299 / 287160 / 140     Feb '09 / Mar '09 / Dec '13 /Aug '10          

Appendicitis/Bowel Obstruction Surgery 8/21/10
Beat Hodgkin's Lymphoma!  7/15/2011 - 1/26/2012 


Ran Half-Marathon 10/14/2012

First Pregnancy, Due 8/12/14                             I LOVE MY DS!!!
 

DrHollywood
on 1/12/11 3:13 am - Harbor City, CA
Thank you. I love your ticker. Can you tell me where I can get something different.
Appreciate your feedback.  I fear eating around my surgery as well as I hear all the people that do.   I dont want to do that. 

" WHY TRY IT!"

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                         "Keeping The Faith!"   "Slim by Summer!"
                                    HW: 250 - SW: 241  - CW: 154.7GW: 140  

     
 1 month: 22 pounds (2162 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8)  3 months: 10.6  (193.2)
 4 months: 9.7  lbs  (183.5)  5 Months:   6  pounds  (177.5 ) 
6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
 7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!!  2.6 pounds (148.4)


  
                                  Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011   (199.7)

                                  "Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)

                                  "Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011  (189.6)

                                   "Groovyland 70`s"  June 20th 2011  (179.9)

                                    " HippyDippyland 60's"  July 16th  (169.8)

                                       " CQQL-land 50`s"  August 25th ( 159.8)

                        "Normal BMI"   24.8  October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6

                                 "AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                              "Century Club 100 Pounds"  Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                                        ' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"

                                           Two Year Surgiversary!!!"


                                                                     

Lisey
on 1/12/11 8:30 am - Milwaukee suburb, WI
I meant it as a response to the question of why people eat around their surgeries meaning that they do so to the point that they gain most of their weight back.  I absolutely did NOT mean it to referencing eating any particular food at any particular time.  In my mind & virtually everyone else I know of on any of the boards I've read, it is 100% okay to eat what I want so long as I do it in an appropriate amount for me.  Given I have the DS & I'm physically active, if I eat less than 2,500 calories/day I start losing weight.  That means, for me, I can basically eat whatever I want whenever I want & pretty much do so.  I do not fear weight regain.  At times when I have been excessively indulgent & have gained as much as 5 pounds, I then go back to the basics of meat & veggies & less than 90gm of carbs/day & I lose those 5 pounds in UNDER one week - every time. 

I try very hard to answer people in a neutral manner that will best help their question, but I feel compelled to state at this point that I agree with the attitude towards food of the other prior posters (before my msg).  Moderation is the key to long-term success.  Food is not evil unless you give it the power to be so.  That means it *CAN* be.  It doesn't mean it absolutely is.  There truly is a difference.  It's up to you in terms of how you perceive it & the power you may or may not allow it to exert over your actions.

Ticker:
I got mine at tickerfactory.com  You set up an account & select which background & ticker instrument you want to show, along with whether you want pounds lost or weight markers.  You then copy & paste the resulting picture that is generated into the section under OH that is "my account/ messages/ signature"  Paste it in the signature box.  In the future, you can double click on your picture from your signature box or any of your posts & it will take you to tickerfactory.com where you need you password to update.

Ticker aside:  It is my personal belief that you will find more support here in the future if you believe that others have the same right to their opinion as you do to yours.  Best of luck in finding what you can have here on OH - a great source of support & family.  How you proceed will affect that liklihood & it really does go back to that age old golden rule of treating others how you want to be treated.

HW / SW / CW / GW      299 / 287160 / 140     Feb '09 / Mar '09 / Dec '13 /Aug '10          

Appendicitis/Bowel Obstruction Surgery 8/21/10
Beat Hodgkin's Lymphoma!  7/15/2011 - 1/26/2012 


Ran Half-Marathon 10/14/2012

First Pregnancy, Due 8/12/14                             I LOVE MY DS!!!
 

DrHollywood
on 1/12/11 3:55 pm - Harbor City, CA
@ lisey

Thank you for sharing

                      ✿ L♦O♦V♦E ✿ & ✿ P♦E♦A♦C♦E ✿ღ ✿ & F♦R♦I♦E♦N♦D♦S ✿ ღ
                         "Keeping The Faith!"   "Slim by Summer!"
                                    HW: 250 - SW: 241  - CW: 154.7GW: 140  

     
 1 month: 22 pounds (2162 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8)  3 months: 10.6  (193.2)
 4 months: 9.7  lbs  (183.5)  5 Months:   6  pounds  (177.5 ) 
6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
 7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!!  2.6 pounds (148.4)


  
                                  Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011   (199.7)

                                  "Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)

                                  "Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011  (189.6)

                                   "Groovyland 70`s"  June 20th 2011  (179.9)

                                    " HippyDippyland 60's"  July 16th  (169.8)

                                       " CQQL-land 50`s"  August 25th ( 159.8)

                        "Normal BMI"   24.8  October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6

                                 "AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                              "Century Club 100 Pounds"  Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                                        ' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"

                                           Two Year Surgiversary!!!"


                                                                     

Ladytazz
on 1/11/11 2:17 pm, edited 1/11/11 2:20 pm
I can't answer for anyone but me. I out ate my first WLS. I gained 100 lbs with a surgery that statistically has the best rates for NOT regaining weight. I choose that surgery because I knew how likely it was that I could out eat it. And I did anyway. I have a disease. I am compulsive overeater. My main problems are quanity--too much is not enough. It's like I have a whole in my stomach that I keep trying to use food to fill. And there isn't enough food in the world to fill it, only to make me sick. It didn't help that my surgeon didn't reduce my stomach very much. I was able to eat as much post op as I did before my surgery.
And I am addicted to refined carbs, mainly sugar and flour, particularly together but in any combination. Once I put something with sugar or flour in my body it sets up a craving and I cannot stop eating it. It always starts with me convincing myself that I can have something in moderation. And it always ends with me stuffing my face with whatever it was I was so sure I could eat in moderation. I don't do moderation, unless it is housework or exercise. Trying to eat things with sugar or flour in moderation is like trying to stay friends with an ex. An abusive ex. It never ends well.
So I out ate my first surgery. Why bother even trying again? I really didn't give it much thought to be honest. I was having bad side effects and needed a revision to my surgery and my surgeon told me he could give me a pouch if I wanted. All I was thinking is that I gained 100 lbs with malabsorption. What would I do when the malabsorption was gone? My surgeon even warned me that I might not lose weight. Maybe because of my history, who knows. All I cared about was not gaining more.
So I agreed to a pouch without really knowing what I was getting in to.
Fortunately I haven't had any problems. I detoxed off of refined carbs in the hospital. Heavy duty drugs help. I knew I could dump if I ate sugar and I have heard it is a very unpleasant experience so I don't test it out. I just assume I will dump and I don't go there. Once the carbs were out of my system the craving was gone and it was easy to stay away from them. Knowing my history I don't allow myself to flirt with the idea of having them in moderation. I just accept that it won't work. By the grace of God I have no hunger so it is easy right now. I know it may not always be this way. I know that it is very possible that I may get hungry again and I may convince myself that it is ok to have that piece of cake or whatever. I know what kind of addict I am. I never say never. I just take it one day at a time. When I had my last surgery I never planned on regaining most of my weight, either.
So I don't judge anyone that regains. There but for the grace of God go I, or should I say, I went. And could easily go again. Maybe even probably. Just not today.

WLS 10/28/2002 Revision 7/23/2010

High Weight  (2002) 240 Revision Weight (2010) 220 Current Weight 115.

DrHollywood
on 1/12/11 3:16 am, edited 1/12/11 4:29 am - Harbor City, CA
What does HW SW CW and the rest stand for?

GOD BLESS you!  it sounds like your doing well. Are you in OA?  I hear you. 

                      ✿ L♦O♦V♦E ✿ & ✿ P♦E♦A♦C♦E ✿ღ ✿ & F♦R♦I♦E♦N♦D♦S ✿ ღ
                         "Keeping The Faith!"   "Slim by Summer!"
                                    HW: 250 - SW: 241  - CW: 154.7GW: 140  

     
 1 month: 22 pounds (2162 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8)  3 months: 10.6  (193.2)
 4 months: 9.7  lbs  (183.5)  5 Months:   6  pounds  (177.5 ) 
6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
 7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!!  2.6 pounds (148.4)


  
                                  Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011   (199.7)

                                  "Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)

                                  "Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011  (189.6)

                                   "Groovyland 70`s"  June 20th 2011  (179.9)

                                    " HippyDippyland 60's"  July 16th  (169.8)

                                       " CQQL-land 50`s"  August 25th ( 159.8)

                        "Normal BMI"   24.8  October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6

                                 "AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                              "Century Club 100 Pounds"  Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                                        ' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"

                                           Two Year Surgiversary!!!"


                                                                     

Ladytazz
on 1/12/11 3:23 am
HW is high weight, don't know SC, SW is starting weight or surgery weight, CW is current weight and GW is goal weight.  I am a member of several anonymous programs.

WLS 10/28/2002 Revision 7/23/2010

High Weight  (2002) 240 Revision Weight (2010) 220 Current Weight 115.

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