Thank you my dear for a post that makes absolutely perfect sense!   I've seen in posts elsewhere that some enjoy a little coffee as well, after the learning curve.  It's nice to know that I can try that myself maybe next year around this time and see how it goes.  I figured I'd buy one of those special little boilers with the teeeny cups and some good Turkish coffee on line so that I'd get the most bang for the buck in about 1/4 cup of liquid.  heh heh    ;-)

Hi Ruthie, I drink coffee every day.  I waited until a month out of surgery, but I'm able to enjoy a couple of cups a day with no problem. 

Hey Lucy!   That's good news.  I can take it or leave it but would like to be able to enjoy a cup once in a while.  I'm glad it's not killed anybody yet so I know I can give it a shot down the line!  :-)

 I just posted to you on your other thread. I may have gotten your fears wrong. I see now what your real question is. And unfortunately, I don't know the answer. I myself am having a bad week. It is my first bad week in 17 months, but it is a bad one. I also said I would never eat "around" my surgery. I would not eat the foods that got me here in the first place. Well....... I am able to eat them, and am having a terrible time overcoming my old compulsions this week. Why? I don't know. Boredom, cravings from TOM coming this week? What I DO know, is that I have the ability to get it back in control. I can, and will get back on track. I have the tool to do this, and like where that tool has gotten me in 17 months, and I will NOT go backwards any further. Will this be easy? Probably not. I am a food addict, and the addiction is rearing its ugly head. Time to cut it off. This is probably what happens to anyone who "eats around their surgery". Eventually after the surgery, we are on our own just as we were before the surgery. Time to get a handle on it for me, before it gets out of control. Hope all goes well for you. 

No one goes into surgery planning on ways to sabotage their failure (or at elast I would hope they are weeded out by their psych eval) everyone should want to do well, plan to follow the rules, and do whatever it takes to not be obese and unhealthy again.

Fact of the matter is, we're human, having surgery does not make you less human. You still want things, but you have to be mindful of how much you are having, why you want it, and how often you do it.

They are called "treats" because they are indulgences for special occassions, not part of a daily meal plan. Like, for example, going to a birthday party post-op and then telling yourself you cannot eat any cake, that you won't allow it. That would lead to resentment of those around you, ruin your mood, and possible cause rifts. If you WANT a forkful of cake and it takes the edge off, do it, a bite may be all you need. Just have a little, know when to cut yourself off.

Why try it? Because of the example above or here are a few more. One of the friends here was craving and craving coffee, couldn't think about much else. Waited her 3 months to try it, and guess what? She threw it out. No longer had a taste for it. Had she not given in, she would have been craving it forever and gotten angry at herself for not letting herself try, and probably lead to self-sabotage. OR I used to love french fries, I tried one, recently, just one, and it wasn't a great as I remembered. I haven't touched one since. Your tastes change, so you will want to try things to see if they still affect you or if you are in control.

I would think most of us had WLS so that we would no longer be slaves to food. Whether its over eating or self deprivation, it boils down to you letting food control your life. Why would you want that?

If there is something you honestly believe you won't be able to control yourself on, then by all means, don't try it. It's a personal choice.

The people at your group you were angry with, I hope I read this correct, but I think what you are angry about is that they got lazy and gave up and expected complaining about their bad habits to fix them rather than doing the work themselves? If that is correct, then I understand.  WLS is no easy fix, and it's lifetime maintenance. You can ever fo back to your old habits if you want to maintain your new body, believing otherwise is a recipe for failure. If you see yourself slipping, catch it at 5 pounds rather than 50. The key is to never give up.

Why try it? Because one day you are going to be "normal", and want normal things, normal food. And there is nothing wrong with that, as long as you can practice self control and eat your "bad" things in moderation.

Now please stop yelling at everyone. You attacked several people who had absolutely non-provoking comments. I know you're scared of screwing up, we all were, most still are. It's something you have to live with forever, but hopefully as you see the changes happening in yourself some of that fear will go away because you will be so happy with your new body and life.

Why try it? Because we're human, and you're going to learn that everything is okay to eat as long as it's done in moderation - which is something we all should have learned before we were fat enough to have WLS.

                                                                                

I had my meeting on Wednesday with the dietician and surgical nurse.   I had to start my liquid diet for 2 weeks to prepare for the surgery on 1/25.  I had been so good for 4 weeks and lost 12 pounds, but I had my husband take me out to dinner last night so I could have my last big meal.   My favorite food is pizza and I know that it is going to be a long time before I will  have some pizza again and even then it will be small portion.  So, I thoroughly enjoyed 2 sliced of the Old Chicago Original.    I won't take even of taste of anything off the plan from here out, but I had to have that last pleasure. 

not feeling guilty... and can't wait for my surgery.

Joanne

I used to be one of those high and mighty "a carb will never pass my lips" people. I apologize here and now. I have been humbled by how very real and difficult this post-op journey is. OP - get off your high horse. I've been there. It's lonely and not a nice way to be.

Nobody can be nice to this idiotic bit** There u want some negative attention. U got it! Giggles and laugh my fat ass off.