** WHY EAT AROUND YOUR SURGERY***

_Leslie_
on 1/12/11 5:51 am - Franklin, WI
On January 12, 2011 at 11:38 AM Pacific Time, DrHollywood wrote:
yep  you got it. They are just relying on the tool....  ( i fear of this for me)
I am grateful for all the responses and everyone who tells me how they think eating cookies is normal.   UMMM  WRONG!!!!
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lack of dealing with the emotional part by drowning ourselves in ALL kinds of bariatric, food addiction, possibly child hood issues groups.

my sister is 5'2" and barely 100lbs.

we grew up together... same parents... same household... and she is a healthy toothpick!!

That girl can also out eat me any day!! She can eat a large bag of flaming hot cheetos in one sitting. She never ever watches what she eats.

If I want a damn cookie... i'm eating a damn cookie!!!

Weight is melting off me, and I do nothing but live a balanced life.
                           
                     448|180|199   
5'10"  268 lbs gone!!
                     SW  CW  GW   

                                         Duodenal Switch                                      
                                   Surgery Date: July 30, 2010                      
                  
LilyFlower79
on 1/12/11 2:43 am - CO
I think by reading all the responses already posted you will see we are not perfect before sugery and after is no different. we try our best and fail many times :) as long as we get up and try again you can ask for nothing more. Support groups are their to air your issues and feel supported as well as get advice on how to help yourself. The leader of the group should always try to redirect when converstaions lead to unhealthy place.
Try to remember that though there are those who think the surgery is an easy way and will not follow the rules or even care about the rules most of us try as imperfectly as possible to do well.
Good luck on your surgery.
DrHollywood
on 1/12/11 3:43 am - Harbor City, CA
thank you for your response  and I appreciate your feedback.

lets talk about the REAL REASONS why PEOPLE EAT AROUND THE SURGERY.

I hear triggers from my post, I hear justfication, I hear blame because I am pre-op.
Frankly this is all helpful information.  

I never said I never am going to eat.  What i said was:

Anyhow, My surgery is FEB 1st.   I hope and hope and hope I DONT EAT AROUND MY SURGERY... 

This is my greatest fear and will do what I can in my moment one day at a time through my Higher Power to abstain from my addicted foods and triggers...recognizing I am a food addict and this will take work.  I fear eating around my surgery like others and I DONT WANT THIS FOR ME....

                      ✿ L♦O♦V♦E ✿ & ✿ P♦E♦A♦C♦E ✿ღ ✿ & F♦R♦I♦E♦N♦D♦S ✿ ღ
                         "Keeping The Faith!"   "Slim by Summer!"
                                    HW: 250 - SW: 241  - CW: 154.7GW: 140  

     
 1 month: 22 pounds (2162 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8)  3 months: 10.6  (193.2)
 4 months: 9.7  lbs  (183.5)  5 Months:   6  pounds  (177.5 ) 
6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
 7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!!  2.6 pounds (148.4)


  
                                  Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011   (199.7)

                                  "Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)

                                  "Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011  (189.6)

                                   "Groovyland 70`s"  June 20th 2011  (179.9)

                                    " HippyDippyland 60's"  July 16th  (169.8)

                                       " CQQL-land 50`s"  August 25th ( 159.8)

                        "Normal BMI"   24.8  October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6

                                 "AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                              "Century Club 100 Pounds"  Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                                        ' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"

                                           Two Year Surgiversary!!!"


                                                                     

ladybugnessa
on 1/12/11 3:53 am - Owings Mills, MD
the reasons you have food issues are NOT the reasons EVERYONE has food issues.

STOP PROJECTING !
Nessa
Ticker is from Day of Surgery.. weight goal is personal preference as I've MET my doctor's goal

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HG/SW/CW/GW
286/253/150/151


Lucycat
on 1/12/11 5:04 am - Lewiston, ID
Well said.  Thank you.
            
daisy.chain
on 1/12/11 5:15 am - Sacramento, CA

I swear I have had this same conversation with my close friend. You seem so much like her. She feels some of the ways you do and has chosen not to have the surgery until her fears are better addressed.

IMHO, you should be afraid. Surgery and life after is a BIG f'ing deal! You should be thinking about every aspect of it because there is no going back.

But fear has a purpose and can be a tool (for some more than others). 

Understand it.

Respect it.

Maybe it was fear that lead you to this monumental life decision. Fear of what would happen to you if you did not make such a change.

Now I am going to quote my surgeon (and I have hated it when he has said this to me), "It's all about choices. Pre-op, post-op it's the same, all about choices." I hated that because I felt it put so much power into my hands. 

So I chose to have the surgery, that was my first big choice, and everyday there are more and more choices. The more good choices I make for myself, the more strength I have to understand what is good FOR ME and continue making good choices. It has inertia.

But I wanted a formula, steps, strict guidelines from my surgeon and instead he gave me choices! I was also very afraid because I had no trust in myself. Now I am starting to heal around that fear and distrust. I am starting to do what I wished for myself.

Good luck to you.

     
mkbeany
on 1/12/11 3:43 am
It is different for all of us.

But the one constant is that none of us are here because we have a great relationship with food.

Easy to ask "Why Why Why" when you are pre-op.

Let us hear from you in a year.

I was confident as hell when I started this journey.

Now I white-knuckle it every day... To stay on track. To eat right. To Move. To not "test the waters".

Good luck to you.

"And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. " -- Anais Nin

Revised from Band to Bypass 10/26/09
High Wt 355/ Surgery Wt 343 (BMI 61) / Current Wt 190 on 3/17/12

TT/Fleur De Lis 8/22/11
Mastopexy and Brachioplasty 12/14/11
DrHollywood
on 1/12/11 5:05 am - Harbor City, CA
@ mkbeany  Now I white-knuckle it every day... To stay on track. To eat right. To Move. To not "test the waters".


To not test the waters....   now white knuckling it when you thought you had it together...
NOW WE ARE FREAKING GETTING SOMEWHERE...
this is the true stuff i want to hear....

by they way..  did it make you feel good to say that I am preop and to see where I am in a year?
Just wondering if you recognize anything or if you got some satisfaction out of it.

Thank you and wishing you continue luck on your journey.

                      ✿ L♦O♦V♦E ✿ & ✿ P♦E♦A♦C♦E ✿ღ ✿ & F♦R♦I♦E♦N♦D♦S ✿ ღ
                         "Keeping The Faith!"   "Slim by Summer!"
                                    HW: 250 - SW: 241  - CW: 154.7GW: 140  

     
 1 month: 22 pounds (2162 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8)  3 months: 10.6  (193.2)
 4 months: 9.7  lbs  (183.5)  5 Months:   6  pounds  (177.5 ) 
6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
 7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!!  2.6 pounds (148.4)


  
                                  Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011   (199.7)

                                  "Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)

                                  "Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011  (189.6)

                                   "Groovyland 70`s"  June 20th 2011  (179.9)

                                    " HippyDippyland 60's"  July 16th  (169.8)

                                       " CQQL-land 50`s"  August 25th ( 159.8)

                        "Normal BMI"   24.8  October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6

                                 "AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                              "Century Club 100 Pounds"  Dec 1st 2011  (149)

                                        ' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"

                                           Two Year Surgiversary!!!"


                                                                     

ladybugnessa
on 1/12/11 5:27 am - Owings Mills, MD
Mary you keep looking to see if we are enjoying telling you things that you think are hurtful.

You seem to think that those of us farther out than you are delight in telling you to wait till after surgery.

Nothing could be farther from the truth...  we stay here after surgery to try to help the preops and newbies...   and because we've walked in those shoes already we have an experience you don't have yet....


I drove my friend Cleopatra_Nik NUTS with the fact that I would NOT break a single one of my doctor's rules for the first six months of surgery... after 6 months we are given the option to eat pretty much anything... it's a choice we are allowed to make.

but for the first six months if the doc said JUMP I said how high... I was high and mighty with my bad self.  I didn't break a single rule, no gum or straws for 3 months no coffee or caffeine for 3 months, no tomato products  for three months etc etc etc... the binder my doc gave me was and still is my bible.  

are there days I want to eat a cinnabon?  you bet.  do I?  NO... because it might make me dump and I'm never home when I CRAVE it. and It's just a craving and I can say  NO....  

are there days I should not nosh on pretzels after dinner... esp if i am dipping them in hummus?  YOU bet... I don't need them... I have had my protein for the day my  calories are over 1200 for the day but I want them.... so I measure out my 1/4 cup of hummus and count out a serving of pretzels and I enjoy them.   do i have guilt NO....

I know you are scared and struggling and it's terrifying to thinK THAT ONE DAY YOU MIGHT eat a cookie or a bit of chocolate... or a pretzel... or want to sip a diet soda or use a straw....

don't let your fear overtake you...
Nessa
Ticker is from Day of Surgery.. weight goal is personal preference as I've MET my doctor's goal

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HG/SW/CW/GW
286/253/150/151


Lady Lithia
on 1/12/11 10:12 am, edited 1/12/11 11:32 am
You hit it in a nutshell. I never EVER spoke about waiting until postop to talk to be mean, but because I KNOW for a FACT that I was unable, literally unable to COMPREHEND what it is like to be a postop. It had nothing to do with a good imagination, or education, I write fiction for fun, and have a masters degree. I am highly educated. But how can you tell someone what it will be like to experience an altered body part? Seriously.... especially a body part that is so central to everyday life that we use it and respond to its commands daily and hourly? It's impossible to know what it is like to be post-op until we ARE post-op. In suggesting to the OP that she come back when she is postop is just a truism ..... come back when you HAVE Altered anatomy, particularly after your anatomy is healed and you've become used to using it daily to eat regular foods. THEN you will know and understand what it is like to be a postop.

I GET the fear..... but it's the fear of the unknown, and it will always be unknown until she or anyone is THERE.

Who is it who said that There is Nothing to Fear but Fear Itself.

~Lady Lithia~ 200 lbs lost! 
March 9, 2011 - Coccygectomy!
I chased my dreams, and my dreams, they caught me!
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