** WHY EAT AROUND YOUR SURGERY***
The reason I "tried it" was because I was hoping that I would be one of those people who could eat sweets and other favorite foods in moderation.
After surgery,you don't know if you can or not without trying. What I found out was I am NOT one of those people who can indulge in moderation. I am now having to detox off of sugar and white carbs again.
I wish I had not "tried it',but hindsight is 20/20. I would like to say I will *NEVER* eat those things again,but never is pretty absolute and I don't know that I won't eat them again. I know I am going to try very hard to not eat them again.
I am a food addict as you say you are. I hope for you also that you won't eat around your surgery and will be able to control those addictive feelings. I have not eaten around my surgery in the sense of deliberately,premeditatedly setting out to seriously eat off plan and do some serious binging.
I love my VSG and pray for it's welfare everyday.
If down the road,after Feb 1,you find yourself in some need of support in this way,you will not find a better board. People are not being mean to you intentionally. Everybody has a different way of relating. 99% of what I have learned about any WLS,pre op issues and post op issues has been learned right here at the feet of the veterans. I stay around and post for those coming behind me in respect for those who came before me.
Believe me when I say that every poster on this thread is to be respected because they are here and sharing their wisdom. They don't have to be here;they all have lives to lead and things to do,but they are here,paying it forward.
Good luck in your journey,
Holly
Actually quite a number, but going without pecan pie, now that is an entirely nother story and I have gone a number of years without already due to being diabetic. Other years, I do indulge, but only a very tiny slice, knowing my insulin has to go up to cover the slice I eat.
Living the life of a diabetic, counting carbs for 12 years has given me the knowledge to know that *I* can handle my surgery but even I know that there are no bad foods, just bad foods for my system. Foods my body can not handle.
I love rice and potatoes, but thanks to my meter and LOTS of testing, I know a potatoe is good for me, rice is not. Rice may as well be pure unaldultarated sugar poured down my throat.
I'm still pre-op, so I don't know what my body will and will not be able to handle 3-6 months, a year from now. All I can do is try things and see....but I do know my own body. It adores the foods I know a DS'er is suppose to eat first, PROTEIN!
Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135
Fortunately, I just managed to miss getting diabetes (my bloodwork was literally 3 points shy). I do remember having to eliminate some things from my diet due to GERD--they weren't even things I particularly liked, and that was difficult. I have a rebellious personality and I hate the idea that something is absolutely verboten.
I did have insulin resistance pre-op, I can tell you that the difference in my system now is amazing. My body no longer hangs onto every single calorie from sugar.
I hope the DS leads to a quick resolution of your T2D. Maybe next Thanksgiving you can enjoy a little bit of pecan pie without issue.
Now, in the last month, due to my surgeon's orders to NOT lose anything, I have tossed my diet out the window, covering everything with insulin. (My BMI was a 35.2 on Dec 2 and he wanted to be sure I qualified for surgery). Today, it was at a 35.8. I've gained 4 lbs. But now that I have gone thru pre-op testing today, I can go back to my diet and be safe.
When I was first diagnosed as a diabetic, it was the Christmas season, I had an entire dining room table full of baked goods and candies I had been making (last year I did that, Dec 15 1997), and I came home and cried in the shower. Afterwards, I stood at the pantry looking for something to eat, holding up a can of TUNA and misreading the label in my frustration cause I read cholestorol instead of carbohydrates on the can and remember standing there thinking, "you mean I can't even have a d&mned can of tuna?"
I've come a long way, this does not scare me, I've been living with my food demons for far too long and gotten a handle on most of them. I know there are some foods I can scarf down if they are in the house, I don't buy them or buy them in such small quantities, it won't hurt me. Cadbury Eggs are an example. I could eat those til I turn blue. I eat them but the mini's and only a few of them, and I plan ahead so I can cover with my insulin.
As my endo once told me, if you can't be happy why bother. So eat but eat sensibly and plan for it. Eat the real stuff amd enjoy small amounts. So I eat one oz of real chocolate versus the fake stuff which will give you the runs anyway. And there is scientific studies that will tell you that dark chocolate is good for you. Not milk chocolate, dark and the darker the better.
Liz
Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135
It's very easy from an early post op position (or even PRE-OP, like the OP) to say "I would never"; however, once you've lived a year or two (or NINE, like me) you discover, quite by accident, that you can do things that maybe are not in your best interest. And you don't do them all the time, every day but only every once in a while and usually not even consciously. And then again, unconsciously, you do them a little more frequently and a little more frequently and SUDDENLY they've become ingrained patterns of behaviour, AGAIN.
The old saying is true: the surgery don't fix your head. And early in the pre-op and post-op period your mind is on one thing: the surgery. But later on down the road, you get back to "real life" and you sometimes even forget that you HAD the surgery and that's when "stuff happens".
I was away from OH for a while, experienced some regains, and came back when I realised the #1 thing FOR ME to keep from getting back into those old patterns and/or dealing with them when they do rear their ugly heads is REMEMBERING FROM WHERE I CAME. This place, along with my in-person support groups, keeps me MINDFUL, which for me is the #1 mechanism for keeping my weight in check.
Marilyn (now in NM)
RNY 10/2/01
262(HW)/150-155(GW)/159(CW)
(updated March 2012)
please reread my post.
I have fear I will. I will treat certain foods like the alcoholic or the crack addict. SUGAR AND CARBS ARE CRACK TO ME.
WHY TRY IT!!!! :)))))
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"Keeping The Faith!" "Slim by Summer!"
HW: 250 - SW: 241 - CW: 154.7- GW: 140
1 month: 22 pounds (216) 2 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8) 3 months: 10.6 (193.2)
4 months: 9.7 lbs (183.5) 5 Months: 6 pounds (177.5 ) 6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!! 2.6 pounds (148.4)
Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011 (199.7)
"Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)
"Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011 (189.6)
"Groovyland 70`s" June 20th 2011 (179.9)
" HippyDippyland 60's" July 16th (169.8)
" CQQL-land 50`s" August 25th ( 159.8)
"Normal BMI" 24.8 October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6
"AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011 (149)
"Century Club 100 Pounds" Dec 1st 2011 (149)
' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"
Two Year Surgiversary!!!"
Well dear, when you've lived NINE YEARS in a post-op RNY body like I have (and, I might add.....am maintaining my weight loss, thank YOU very much) then you will understand exactly what I'm saying. My goal was never to be a slave to food but rather to eat like a normal person. And I do.
Normal people have a cookie every now and then...or a beer...or a scone at Starbucks. They don't sit around swilling down protein drinks and charting their intake EVERY FREAKING DAY on sparkpeople. They do, occasionally, when they've gained 5 pounds over Christmas (like I did); and then, once they get their skinny jeans zipped (mine are size 6) go back to eating NORMALLY...which means a cookie or two EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE (not a whole sleeve of chocolate covered graham crackers, like I used to do pre-op).
Live it....then come back and ask me "why". All or nothing thinking is part of the reason I got morbidly obese; I don't want it to be the reason I go back there.
Because the short answer, for me, if LIFE WITHOUT AN OCCASIONAL BEER AIN'T WORTH LIVING, fat or skinny.
good luck.
Marilyn (now in NM)
RNY 10/2/01
262(HW)/150-155(GW)/159(CW)
(updated March 2012)
Thanks for your share. Sounds like your under control which I too is all I hope for myself who is still out of control. I strive one day at a time to not live out of control. One day this will be effortless. I know this because I did this with drinking. Now I get to do this with only some foods.
Peace~
✿ L♦O♦V♦E ✿ & ✿ P♦E♦A♦C♦E ✿ღ ✿ & F♦R♦I♦E♦N♦D♦S ✿ ღ
"Keeping The Faith!" "Slim by Summer!"
HW: 250 - SW: 241 - CW: 154.7- GW: 140
1 month: 22 pounds (216) 2 months: 12.2 pounds (203.8) 3 months: 10.6 (193.2)
4 months: 9.7 lbs (183.5) 5 Months: 6 pounds (177.5 ) 6 Months: 12 lbs ( 165.5)
7 Months 7.1 lbs (158.4) 8 Months +1.6 pounds(159.8) 9 Months 2.7 pounds (157.1)
10 Months 8.1 lbs (149) 11 months +2 pounds ( 151) 1 YEAR!!! 2.6 pounds (148.4)
Hit "One-derland April 9th, 2011 (199.7)
"Half-Way Goal" April 25th, 2011 (194.8)
"Happyland 80`s" May 14, 2011 (189.6)
"Groovyland 70`s" June 20th 2011 (179.9)
" HippyDippyland 60's" July 16th (169.8)
" CQQL-land 50`s" August 25th ( 159.8)
"Normal BMI" 24.8 October 21st, 2011 (154.5) I am 5`6
"AWESOME-land 40's" Dec 1st 2011 (149)
"Century Club 100 Pounds" Dec 1st 2011 (149)
' ONE YEAR SURGIVERSARY!!!"
Two Year Surgiversary!!!"
Yes, refraining from SOME THINGS is possible. I don't bring ice cream sandwiches into my house; if they are here, I will eat them until they are gone, in one day. But does that mean I SHOULD NOT eat, in moderation, those things which do not cause me to binge? I think not.
My point is that you CAN be successful with WLS without depriving yourself of all good food. Life does NOT have to be lived eating only protein shakes and vitamin pills and low carb foods. It does NOT.
Marilyn (now in NM)
RNY 10/2/01
262(HW)/150-155(GW)/159(CW)
(updated March 2012)
Good Luck
