Lets discuss the duodenal Switch!
On August 18, 2010 at 6:25 PM Pacific Time, Chilipepper wrote:
Did you research all of the surgeries prior to having your DS. If you had, you would have learned that we have the same kind of diet you do. High protein/low carbs. We just don't require as much fats in our diet as you do..but we still can and do have fats. You may have met a few people that have certain issues...but you can't make a blanket statement that those few people you have met are the "RNY Lifestyle". We all have our personal preferences as to what we eat...that goes for you and me and the people you see on the main board. You can't just assume it is the same for everyone.
We all just try to get good information out there for newbies...just trying to clear up some confusion on the RNY post op diet.
Chili, how many calories do you eat a day? I can see you eating the same kinds of food DSers eat, but not the same quantities.
Chilipepper
on 8/19/10 7:09 am
on 8/19/10 7:09 am
I eat about 1100-1200 calories a day...I eat everything you eat..just not in the same quantity..that is what I keep saying. Some should not use incorrect information about one surgery to sell another. We eat steak, shrimp, chicken..we have some fats..keeps the pooper working good...I have treated myself to a few sweets blah blah blah. I want the correct information out there also...I was reading a preop DSr telling another preop that Rny'rs can dump on chicken because of how fast the chicken runs through the pouch. Obviously she doesn't realize or learned in her research that the bottom of our pouches isn't a wide open portal to our intestines. That it does take food time to move threw. An Rny'r has the same high protein/low carb requirements that a DS'r has. We eat our proteins first and then moved to the carbs and starches.
I am a huge fan of the DS, you know that. I would have gotten it, my insurance would have covered it because of my BMI, but the GERD issue guided me to the RNY. I do get pissed off when certain people insist on spreading incorrect information.
I do get pissed off when people try to organize the troops to go out and start another "war".
This was a great post that Jess made. It was kind, loaded with tons of information for preops..personal experiences from DS'rs. Many have great intentions and want the best for preops...some just want to create friction.
I am a huge fan of the DS, you know that. I would have gotten it, my insurance would have covered it because of my BMI, but the GERD issue guided me to the RNY. I do get pissed off when certain people insist on spreading incorrect information.
I do get pissed off when people try to organize the troops to go out and start another "war".
This was a great post that Jess made. It was kind, loaded with tons of information for preops..personal experiences from DS'rs. Many have great intentions and want the best for preops...some just want to create friction.
"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." --- Dorothy Parker
"You may not like what I say or how I say it, but it may be just exactly what you need to hear." ---Kathryn White
Lookin' good Jessy! Thanks for reminding me the main board even exists. *lol* Any wls choice is hard to make when you don't have all the facts or any input from those that have been there. Great way to pay it forward!
Like most of you, I was smo for most of my life. My health wa****ting the ****ter with severe GERD, high cholesterol, bordering on sleep apnea, high blood pressure, diabetes, and a partridge in a freakin' pear tree. I have other health issues that are not directly related to my obesity so I had to be able to take NSAID's. I wanted to be 'normal' and not worry about exercise as I am extremely limited on physical activity. I was oh so close to having the RNY, even though it didn't meet any criteria I was looking for. That was because I had no idea the DS even existed! One day on OH, I saw a surgery war. It fascinated me! The information was tangible and I decided to check it all out. I found the DS was exactly what I was looking for.
Once I knew the DS was for me, I had to travel out of state to have my surgery (my insurance paid for it); which I'm lucky as some travel out of the country to have theirs as self-payers. After all the hurdles were jumped, I was switched on Dec. 28th 2009 and I've never looked back. The changes are too many to mention, but I can tell anyone out there if you have severe arthritis or autoimmune disease like I do, please look into all options and educate yourself.
Now all that being said, I do want to say this: I do not smell funny, I do not live on the toilet, I do fart when I eat sugary or carby foods and no it doesn't smell like roses nor has it ever.. I mean c'mon, if your farts smell like a bouquet of flowers I want to meet your momma...I am not nauseated, I have never vomited, not even early post-op. I did develop an incisional hernia which I just had repaired last week and I'm still recouping from that. (went back to my DS surgeon for that one too) I eat 100-120 grams of protein a day, I get in over 64 oz of fluids a day, and I take all my supplements each and every day. Compliant to the nth is the only way to be successful and healthy.
It is a very personal decision to have wls. I hope you make the right choice for you! PM me if you have any questions, I'll be happy to help if I can.
Like most of you, I was smo for most of my life. My health wa****ting the ****ter with severe GERD, high cholesterol, bordering on sleep apnea, high blood pressure, diabetes, and a partridge in a freakin' pear tree. I have other health issues that are not directly related to my obesity so I had to be able to take NSAID's. I wanted to be 'normal' and not worry about exercise as I am extremely limited on physical activity. I was oh so close to having the RNY, even though it didn't meet any criteria I was looking for. That was because I had no idea the DS even existed! One day on OH, I saw a surgery war. It fascinated me! The information was tangible and I decided to check it all out. I found the DS was exactly what I was looking for.
Once I knew the DS was for me, I had to travel out of state to have my surgery (my insurance paid for it); which I'm lucky as some travel out of the country to have theirs as self-payers. After all the hurdles were jumped, I was switched on Dec. 28th 2009 and I've never looked back. The changes are too many to mention, but I can tell anyone out there if you have severe arthritis or autoimmune disease like I do, please look into all options and educate yourself.
Now all that being said, I do want to say this: I do not smell funny, I do not live on the toilet, I do fart when I eat sugary or carby foods and no it doesn't smell like roses nor has it ever.. I mean c'mon, if your farts smell like a bouquet of flowers I want to meet your momma...I am not nauseated, I have never vomited, not even early post-op. I did develop an incisional hernia which I just had repaired last week and I'm still recouping from that. (went back to my DS surgeon for that one too) I eat 100-120 grams of protein a day, I get in over 64 oz of fluids a day, and I take all my supplements each and every day. Compliant to the nth is the only way to be successful and healthy.
It is a very personal decision to have wls. I hope you make the right choice for you! PM me if you have any questions, I'll be happy to help if I can.
Hey, Jessy! Still rockin' that DS I see.
I'm coming up on seven years post-DS, and life is GOOD. I take NO meds now---just a handful of vitamins, LOL! I'm easily maintaining my lowest adult weight EVER, and in fact, I still lose a pound here and there. My labs are pretty good, although recently I've had to do some tweeking to keep them that way. I let my D get too low, so I'm taking a LOT of that now.
I'm SO much more active than I was pre-op. I've spent the summer hiking through the woods gathering plants for my garden, which I can now work in ALL DAY if I choose. I've built a couple of porches at my home, and helped build a couple more for friends. I've taken an active in role in our local Community Club, helping with events where we feed several hundred people.
Unlike LadyTazz, I've NEVER had any trouble with diarrhea, and I most definately still have restriction. I do eat a lot of CALORIES a day, but it's mostly protein and fat, which is pretty dense food---so not a lot of volume.
I'm coming up on seven years post-DS, and life is GOOD. I take NO meds now---just a handful of vitamins, LOL! I'm easily maintaining my lowest adult weight EVER, and in fact, I still lose a pound here and there. My labs are pretty good, although recently I've had to do some tweeking to keep them that way. I let my D get too low, so I'm taking a LOT of that now.
I'm SO much more active than I was pre-op. I've spent the summer hiking through the woods gathering plants for my garden, which I can now work in ALL DAY if I choose. I've built a couple of porches at my home, and helped build a couple more for friends. I've taken an active in role in our local Community Club, helping with events where we feed several hundred people.
Unlike LadyTazz, I've NEVER had any trouble with diarrhea, and I most definately still have restriction. I do eat a lot of CALORIES a day, but it's mostly protein and fat, which is pretty dense food---so not a lot of volume.
Hey Jess - love your new avatar.
I'm not gonna sugar coat this at all. I am four years out and live an incredibly active, productive, quality-filled life. I met and married my husband as a post-op, and I would have never had the confidence to get myself out there in the world to even meet a worthy man at 282 pounds. I am a professional musician, choral conductor and music teacher, and am in the public eye frequently. I take zumba, cardio kickboxing and walk - I do some form of exercise almost every day. Life is good. I eat a rich, varied, diverse, protein-heavy diet. I keep it fairly low carb, but allow room for indulgences. I do not feel deprived at all - ever. If I stay away from white flour, which I do most days, my gas/bathroom issues are about as normal as you can get. I poop about three times a day. If I eat small quantities, it is manageable. If I gorge, I spend the night trotting to the toilet every hour and stinking my family out of the house. As a classroom teacher, I can only use the bathroom at infrequent intervals throughout the day, and this has never been a problem (well, except for one time when I had the stomach flu and had to call the office for someone to relieve me so I could dash down the hall to use the restoom). I have had some problems with my vitamin D and calcium levels, but we seem to have that ironed out now, with sublingual D and transdermal calcium cream. I did develop osteoporosis as a result, but am being treated by an endocrinologist, and he is extremely optimistic that we can get this turned around. That seems to be the worst of it for me. The best of it?
Take a look:
Pre-op, 268 pounds
This is me, last week. FOUR YEARS POST-OP! Age 49 - NO PLASTICS
Yup, gotta love my DS.
I'm not gonna sugar coat this at all. I am four years out and live an incredibly active, productive, quality-filled life. I met and married my husband as a post-op, and I would have never had the confidence to get myself out there in the world to even meet a worthy man at 282 pounds. I am a professional musician, choral conductor and music teacher, and am in the public eye frequently. I take zumba, cardio kickboxing and walk - I do some form of exercise almost every day. Life is good. I eat a rich, varied, diverse, protein-heavy diet. I keep it fairly low carb, but allow room for indulgences. I do not feel deprived at all - ever. If I stay away from white flour, which I do most days, my gas/bathroom issues are about as normal as you can get. I poop about three times a day. If I eat small quantities, it is manageable. If I gorge, I spend the night trotting to the toilet every hour and stinking my family out of the house. As a classroom teacher, I can only use the bathroom at infrequent intervals throughout the day, and this has never been a problem (well, except for one time when I had the stomach flu and had to call the office for someone to relieve me so I could dash down the hall to use the restoom). I have had some problems with my vitamin D and calcium levels, but we seem to have that ironed out now, with sublingual D and transdermal calcium cream. I did develop osteoporosis as a result, but am being treated by an endocrinologist, and he is extremely optimistic that we can get this turned around. That seems to be the worst of it for me. The best of it?
Take a look:
Pre-op, 268 pounds
This is me, last week. FOUR YEARS POST-OP! Age 49 - NO PLASTICS
Yup, gotta love my DS.
Julie R - Ludington, Michigan
Duodenal Switch 08/09/06 - Dr. Paul Kemmeter, Grand Rapids, Michigan
HW: 282 - 5'4"
SW: 268
GW: 135
CW: 125
Duodenal Switch 08/09/06 - Dr. Paul Kemmeter, Grand Rapids, Michigan
HW: 282 - 5'4"
SW: 268
GW: 135
CW: 125
Hey Jessy, your doing so good. I started out thinking I would have the lap-band, then looked into the RNY and it was by chance I found out about the DS. I was a lightweight going into it and I was not in the best of health at the time, but I listened to so many vet. DSers and rode out my DS. I lost to a normal BMI at 4 months out and knew I had to do something to slow things down. I am 2 years out and am very healthy now. No other surgery would have worked for me, I know this about myself. I do love my DS. Karen
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