"Head hunger" and the DS
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on 12/13/09 6:35 am - Woodbridge, VA
on 12/13/09 6:35 am - Woodbridge, VA
I thought you had vowed not to play in these reindeer games anymore? I see that lasted long...
No one here said other surgeries shouldn't be available as options. No one said EVERYONE should get the DS. No one was even fighting. Well, until you ran right in with your unprovoked bitter sarcasm. Take a good look - THIS is how the "surgery wars" start.
No one here said other surgeries shouldn't be available as options. No one said EVERYONE should get the DS. No one was even fighting. Well, until you ran right in with your unprovoked bitter sarcasm. Take a good look - THIS is how the "surgery wars" start.
On December 13, 2009 at 10:57 AM Pacific Time, Medley411 wrote:
diana, you make a very valid point. Hats off to you. I think that you should build and constituency and lobby on capital hill, and outlaw all other surgeries and mandate that Lap-band, RNY, FOBI, what ever else is out there, be eliminated. That will allow everyone to have DS. Then we can all support one another. We wont have to fight anymore. You are right, food needs to get right with us, not the other way around. 
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DS SW 265 CW 120 5'7"
Very enlightening about head hunger, Diana. Thank you for sharing.
You know... its my observation that some people just refuse to believe they can learn things from people who have completely different views from them. It is a sad, sad thing. A closed, resentful mind is really quite worthless.
Karen
You know... its my observation that some people just refuse to believe they can learn things from people who have completely different views from them. It is a sad, sad thing. A closed, resentful mind is really quite worthless.
Karen
Well, I believe it's a psychological defense mechanism, especially among certain (but by no means all) relatively recent post-ops. They MUST convince themselves that this information isn't correct, nor applicable to them.
I welcome their attempts to "attack" -- especially the silly inane ones. They boost the post and view counts, and increase readership of these informational threads, and make themselves look foolish in the process. And some of that readership comes from the pre-ops, who are the target audience for my posts about the DS in the first place. It's all good!
I welcome their attempts to "attack" -- especially the silly inane ones. They boost the post and view counts, and increase readership of these informational threads, and make themselves look foolish in the process. And some of that readership comes from the pre-ops, who are the target audience for my posts about the DS in the first place. It's all good!
marymother
on 12/13/09 4:05 am - saint john, Canada
on 12/13/09 4:05 am - saint john, Canada
For me personally I get head hunger( I feel hungry but just ate and know I am full) if I am thirsty. Once I drink the hunger goes away. I only feel thirsty after eating something salty like pizza or ham but other than that the head hunger is really thirsty.
Higest weight 305
weight surgery day Feb 12 2009 251
Current weight 174
First goal 199 Onederland ( Reached goal Aug 8 @ 198lbs)
Second goal 193 Century Club ( Reached on Aug 30 2009 )
Third goal 180 pounds ( Reached on Nov.23 2009 ) (my personal goal)
Final goal 170 pounds ( reached Jan 5 2011) ( only stayed that weight breifly)
I'm still maggie from the grove
I LOVE MY RNY !!!
2 years down, a lifetime to go!!!!
LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE, NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE
weight surgery day Feb 12 2009 251
Current weight 174
First goal 199 Onederland ( Reached goal Aug 8 @ 198lbs)
Second goal 193 Century Club ( Reached on Aug 30 2009 )
Third goal 180 pounds ( Reached on Nov.23 2009 ) (my personal goal)
Final goal 170 pounds ( reached Jan 5 2011) ( only stayed that weight breifly)
I'm still maggie from the grove
I LOVE MY RNY !!!2 years down, a lifetime to go!!!!
LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE, NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE
You are not getting it. If you eat and the hunger goes away, then that is physical hunger, not head hunger. Head hunger is a psychological craving that can rarely be satisfied. If you havent had it then you cant understand how devastating it can be for some people. I was unaware until this post that there is a biological factor. That makes so much sense and I will remember this the next time someone posts about dealing with a hunger that cant be satisfied.
Karen
Karen
When I read Dr. Marceau's article back before my DS, it was as though he had written it about me. I had already decided that I would not be successful longterm with RNY (short term, sure, you can hardly help but lose weight at first, but not longterm) given how restrictive and unnatural the post-op diet for the rest of your life is. I realize that some people are able to make RNY, lap band, etc. work for them, and that's great. But I would not have been one of those people. And sadly, we are seeing more and more people on the DS forum and the revision forum who have tried their best with other operations and are now looking into second or even third wls attempts.
The DS provides permanent metabolic changes that address the metabolic problems that MO people have. Being MO is a disease. It is not a character failing, nor immoral. It is a terrible and difficult to treat disease. There is no other option presently available that addresses the metabolic problems of MO like the DS. Restriction is also important, but for longterm success will likely not be sufficient for most MO people.
Larra
The DS provides permanent metabolic changes that address the metabolic problems that MO people have. Being MO is a disease. It is not a character failing, nor immoral. It is a terrible and difficult to treat disease. There is no other option presently available that addresses the metabolic problems of MO like the DS. Restriction is also important, but for longterm success will likely not be sufficient for most MO people.
Larra
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