Why can't I have SUGAR? (I am 7wks post op RNY)

Marlee
on 12/8/09 1:52 am
You claim that you ate only 3 bites of cotton candy, yet on your profile it was almost like you were bragging that you ate "half a bag".  THAT is what concerns me and most everyone else that has responded to your question.  But......the real question you need to address is being able to be honest with yourself and what goes into your mouth.  We want to see you be successful with this journey that we ALL are on - testing the waters to this degree, this early out, is not a very good omen.
ladybugnessa
on 12/8/09 1:57 am - Owings Mills, MD
Lisa,

in all seriousness and honesty,  I want YOU to succeed in this journey.   IF you have a sugar/sweets addiction, you should avoid those things.  

Would you try a glass of wine if you were a recovering alcoholic? 

What about a Bet on the super bowl if you were a gambler in recovery?

MOST OF US ARE ADDICTS!  

Sugar is the enemy.  It will make you crave more food.  even if it's good food.... IT does NOT do anything good for your body.

Do you know why humans like sweet things?  Because in order to survive thousands of years ago babies had to want to nurse.   Breast milk is very very sweet even to adults.  That's why we develop a 'sweet tooth'.  

From what I have heard only 30% of the population dumps.   I do not want to know if I am one of them. I am just assuming that I am.   I am sure a year from now I will find out.  I am sure I will indulge in Holiday treats...  but this year at 11 weeks out  I"m on the straight and narrow.

I can understand wanting to know.. but what I want to know from you is WHY  you needed to know 7 weeks out and IN PUBLIC... what if you had dumped and severely?    WHEN I TRY something that may make me dump, it will be at home with my family around to catch me if I fall.

I wish you nothing but peace happiness and success on this lifelong journey and hope you can reconcile your desires with your needs.  

Nessa
Ticker is from Day of Surgery.. weight goal is personal preference as I've MET my doctor's goal

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So Blessed!
on 12/8/09 2:02 am
On December 8, 2009 at 9:34 AM Pacific Time, Lisa Friday wrote:
Wow... I had no idea that my telling you all that I ate 3 bites of cotton candy was going to cause such a fuss...
I really did not mean to ruffle anyone's feathers...
YES-
I am EXTREMELY grateful that God granted me this incredible gift of WLS...
I am very thankful to have all of YOU, my "OH Club" to go to for advice, support, Q's...

This really was an honest Q...
I had heard that sugar was the enemy, and that my body physically could not handle it in any way, shape or form
Having been convinced of this and being a RNY patient, I was truly shocked when I did not 'dump' last night at the parade in front of thousands of people.

I, honestly, wanted to know from other RNYers if I was one in a million who could eat pure sugar or if there were others out there that did not 'dump' due to ingesting this very maddening (obviously for many WLS patients) substance...

I am truly sorry if I have offended any one who has yet to have this wonderful surgery...
I am simply trying to find out what works for me with this new body/lifestyle, etc.
Thanks again for sharing your experiences with sugar...
Lisa


 You didn't say you ate 3 bites of cotton candy in your original post. You asked the following:

are there any RNYers out there that can enjoy a bag of Cotton Candy once a year?

That's what caused the uproar.   Naturally, if you ask something like that when you're a new post op, look for a smack down.    We're trying to save you, woman!

That being said, not all RNY patients dump.  Sugar isn't the only thing that can cause dumping either.  Some people dump on sugar alcohols, unrefined carbs in general and also greasy foods.  Every person is different. 

I think it's a little bit early to be testing the waters with your food.  This is your honeymoon period where you should be maximizing your weight loss potential and setting up good habits that you can follow for life.  You don't want to just lose.  You will need these skills to MAINTAIN.

Once you reach goal, maybe start experimenting here and there and see how you are able to tolerate different foods.  I like chocolate so I eat a piece every once in a while.  Just one piece though. 

Having this surgery doesn't mean lifelong deprivation of everything you like.   You just have to watch your portions and make sure the MAJORITY of what you consume follows pouch rules.

I'm not offended at all.  I welcome questions and please keep asking them.  You never know who this might help.

Good luck!



 

Elizabeth N.
on 12/8/09 3:49 am - Burlington County, NJ
Well, here's the bottom line: Sugar is empty calories, no nutrition whatsoever. It has no redeeming food value of any kind. That's why you shouldn't eat it. You have a little tiny pouch, so no space for food with no nutrition. You are to consume a very VERY limited number of calories per day, so those calories need to contain nutrients.

That's why.
clsino
on 12/8/09 1:22 am
If you can't stick to your Nuts eating plan at this early out it doesn't bode well for the future. 

Your body right now needs good protein in order to heal and lose weight.  Sure maybe 6 months to a year an occasional "treat" won't be a problem, but I certainly wouldn't go testing the waters this early out.  You could be setting yourself up for failure.

Christy
lisa92069
on 12/8/09 1:27 am - PA
I'm sorry in advance if this sounds harsh.....

It looks to me like you are looking for someone to tell you that this behavior is "ok".  At 7 weeks out, it's definitely not good behavior.  I'm sure that your surgeon's office provided you with a list of what you are supposed to be eating and I seriously doubt that cotton candy is on that list.

Now is not the time to be testing the waters.  Just because you can it eat, doesn't mean that you should.

And finally, as another poster mentioned, there are people that would give their left leg to get surgery and can't. You should consider yourself fortunate that you were able to get the surgery and follow the rules.

Lisa


 
jojobear98
on 12/8/09 1:28 am - Gettysburg, PA
This is what leads to "Help! I am 2 years out and gained all my weight back!" ........

I am amazed. Cotton Freaking Candy. 7 weeks out. My surgeon would FLIP if he know I did that post op. So would the nurse and NUT. Why put so much effort into the pre surgery process, undergo MAJOR surgery, just to "test the waters" a little like that. DUH!


I am 5 years out, I have occasional sugar, in small doses. Could I eat an entire slice of cake? Oh hell yeah! Would I ever? Hell no. I am still maintaining. I experiment more since I am further out, maintained and know what's going on.

You aren't even truly healed yet! Your question is, "why can't I eat sugar?"

Well, obviously, you can. And you will. I just hope that insurance doesn't pay for revisions for instances like this when people who truly put forth commitment and effort are getting denied.

Sorry if I blew off the handle, I am just appalled, I guess.

When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila & salt and give me a call!


 

 

Mendy2009
on 12/8/09 2:16 am - Daphne, AL

Lisa,
Wow this is the strongest reaction I have ever seen on OH. I think everyone, I hope everyone has the same goal in mind. Gentlely to let you know that yes you might be able to take in sugar, but not this early and very selectively. As for me. I was a compete sugar addict. I can not and will not get back into that trap in my life. I am so thankful to be free.. I am don't like sweet anymore. I am 8 weeks out and I throw up daily over one thing or another. usually chicken or carbs snacks like pretzels or beef it doesn't stay down all the time. The only thing that does is veggies and protein drinks. I am thick headed and don't always make the best choice when putting food in my mouth, but I have to learn to make every single ounce of food a great choice for this year. next year I can  branch into more celebratory eating, cheese dip, chips, burritos... that kind of thing. but most of all I did this to LIVE.. I am 47 and was dying of sugar diabetes...I want to live with the love of my life for as many years as I can. I want to see grand babies someday, go on a long vacation and retire with my best friend my husband. I didn't make this decision to fit in smaller jeans or to have a pouch make my decision to get slim. the pouch is a tool we control it, it doesn't control us. put things in it that will heal, and feed your body not your head or tongue. please don't stop talking and expressing your feelings and confessing your eating here at OH this is what this site if for. Even if you don't like the answers there is a thread of truth in every ones response. I agree with some to call you NUT and talk with the counselor about your choices and see what they suggest. I personally know 10 people who have had RNY and within 5 yrs gained it ALL back and then some. two people had this done twice! I don't want to be one of them.
God Bless you and your life change and healing.
 

                    
Lisa Friday
on 12/8/09 2:37 am - AL

Oh, sweet Mendy, thank you for also seeing what a strong reaction that I have gotten from this 3 bite cotton candy experience...

I, definitely, will be reluctant (in the near future) to post "MY TRUTH" in "MYWLJourney"...
I really HATE confrontation, so, this has been hard for me to hear...
BUT,
I loved reading your "truth" and your experiences...thanks for the insight.
I will take every word you wrote to heart.
Thank you for your advice about counseling... In fact, I am in counseling presently, and will  continue seeing him until he tells me I am ready to "go it" alone...

God Bless you Mendy,
Lisa

Queen Koosa
on 12/8/09 6:37 am
On December 8, 2009 at 9:28 AM Pacific Time, jojobear98 wrote:
This is what leads to "Help! I am 2 years out and gained all my weight back!" ........

I am amazed. Cotton Freaking Candy. 7 weeks out. My surgeon would FLIP if he know I did that post op. So would the nurse and NUT. Why put so much effort into the pre surgery process, undergo MAJOR surgery, just to "test the waters" a little like that. DUH!


I am 5 years out, I have occasional sugar, in small doses. Could I eat an entire slice of cake? Oh hell yeah! Would I ever? Hell no. I am still maintaining. I experiment more since I am further out, maintained and know what's going on.

You aren't even truly healed yet! Your question is, "why can't I eat sugar?"

Well, obviously, you can. And you will. I just hope that insurance doesn't pay for revisions for instances like this when people who truly put forth commitment and effort are getting denied.

Sorry if I blew off the handle, I am just appalled, I guess.
   This is why people gain back weight.  They don't learn to eat right.
DON'T DREAM YOUR LIFE.
 LIVE YOUR DREAMS


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