WARNING TO PRE-OPS: Think twice, cut once -- or else!
And the hits just keep on comin'!!
Ancient Anus doesn't just say things "I disagree with' -- he spouts dangerous lies and claims them as facts -- he has to be rebutted because newbies and idiots think his information is true and they could make HORRIBLE, LIFE-CHANGING MISTAKES if they don't get proper information. Do you not know the difference between the implications of whether he has an opinion regarding rap music and him telling LIES about the DS to pre-ops who are vulnerable to making life-changing decisions based on those lies, because they don't know he's a malicious idiot?
Don't presume to tell me what I can post, on the main message board or elsewhere. If you think I'm violating the TOS, report me. Better yet, BLOCK ME and resume your obtuse, simple-minded, ignorant, vitamin-deficient existence.
Begone! Your posts are no longer of any interest to me, because they are dull and redundant, and I can't fix your stupidity.
Ancient Anus doesn't just say things "I disagree with' -- he spouts dangerous lies and claims them as facts -- he has to be rebutted because newbies and idiots think his information is true and they could make HORRIBLE, LIFE-CHANGING MISTAKES if they don't get proper information. Do you not know the difference between the implications of whether he has an opinion regarding rap music and him telling LIES about the DS to pre-ops who are vulnerable to making life-changing decisions based on those lies, because they don't know he's a malicious idiot?
Don't presume to tell me what I can post, on the main message board or elsewhere. If you think I'm violating the TOS, report me. Better yet, BLOCK ME and resume your obtuse, simple-minded, ignorant, vitamin-deficient existence.
Begone! Your posts are no longer of any interest to me, because they are dull and redundant, and I can't fix your stupidity.
marymother
on 11/21/09 10:05 am - saint john, Canada
on 11/21/09 10:05 am - saint john, Canada
Hahahaha too funny. " Begone" yeah I'm sure that is how you think too.
I get it now. I do see how this works. If anyone comes to these posts with an opinion that differs from the DS mindset, several of you who cannot form an intelligent argument attack the poster like a swarm of mad bees.Then through your rudeness and general ignorance of human decent behavior hope anyone who differs will go away because if their ideas does not conform to yours you feel threatened and resort to name calling.
So sad to see adults act in such a fashion but I guess you live in your own perfect world where slathering your food with fat and grease is what you really believe is healthy eating. Oh my God!Wake up and smell the coffee. You are so far behind that you think you are ahead.
I am not and will not be intimidated or scared off by your childish behavior. I want all pre-ops to know what a pile of bull**** these claims of wonderful DS are. It is what it is. Another weight loss surgery in the realm of many weight loss surgeries. All are successful to some people and all are unsuccessful to some people. It is most important to choose one that fits YOUR lifestyle and don't listen to crazy people who try to sell you on one over the other, This is your life, your choice. I am as happy with my RNY as Diane is about her DS Just be sure you can live with the reality of your choice.
I get it now. I do see how this works. If anyone comes to these posts with an opinion that differs from the DS mindset, several of you who cannot form an intelligent argument attack the poster like a swarm of mad bees.Then through your rudeness and general ignorance of human decent behavior hope anyone who differs will go away because if their ideas does not conform to yours you feel threatened and resort to name calling.
So sad to see adults act in such a fashion but I guess you live in your own perfect world where slathering your food with fat and grease is what you really believe is healthy eating. Oh my God!Wake up and smell the coffee. You are so far behind that you think you are ahead.
I am not and will not be intimidated or scared off by your childish behavior. I want all pre-ops to know what a pile of bull**** these claims of wonderful DS are. It is what it is. Another weight loss surgery in the realm of many weight loss surgeries. All are successful to some people and all are unsuccessful to some people. It is most important to choose one that fits YOUR lifestyle and don't listen to crazy people who try to sell you on one over the other, This is your life, your choice. I am as happy with my RNY as Diane is about her DS Just be sure you can live with the reality of your choice.
Higest weight 305
weight surgery day Feb 12 2009 251
Current weight 174
First goal 199 Onederland ( Reached goal Aug 8 @ 198lbs)
Second goal 193 Century Club ( Reached on Aug 30 2009 )
Third goal 180 pounds ( Reached on Nov.23 2009 ) (my personal goal)
Final goal 170 pounds ( reached Jan 5 2011) ( only stayed that weight breifly)
I'm still maggie from the grove
I LOVE MY RNY !!!
2 years down, a lifetime to go!!!!
LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE, NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE
weight surgery day Feb 12 2009 251
Current weight 174
First goal 199 Onederland ( Reached goal Aug 8 @ 198lbs)
Second goal 193 Century Club ( Reached on Aug 30 2009 )
Third goal 180 pounds ( Reached on Nov.23 2009 ) (my personal goal)
Final goal 170 pounds ( reached Jan 5 2011) ( only stayed that weight breifly)
I'm still maggie from the grove
I LOVE MY RNY !!!2 years down, a lifetime to go!!!!
LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE, NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE
No, you DON'T get it.
You have a healthy dose of skepticism for people online, but none for medical professionals. Interesting. Let me guess...you think they do it out of the kindness of their hearts, too, right? That money does not motivate them at all?
The lessons learned by this collective OH group (of all surgeries) are more practical than just about anything your dietician can tell you. We all have been there--assuming our doctors and dieticians are right. But then we find our labs slipping.
People are trying to help you by savinng you a world of hurt and you won't listen. Take their concerns to your doc and dietician, by all means. Tell them 100s of people on OH tell you that you should take vites than you're taking. Do some research on your own to find out what you should be taking.There are some basic things even the conservative ASMBS recommends for post-RNY life. This is life and death, so I wish you would act like an adult and take responsibility for yourself.
The only reason your labs are "good" now (and "good" is extremely relative) is because you are so new out of the gate. Trying to fix a deficiency later is like trying to sandbag a flooding river. It's better to shore up the land ahead of time. And your weight loss? You SHOULD be happy with your weight loss at this point. It's the long-term you should be concerned about.
Seriously, check out vitalady.com and Andrea's blog (she is on this thread). There's good info there.
You seem like one of those people who need to suffer in order to learn. I'm sorry for you. It's a shame to waste time, since we all have so lilttle on this planet to begin with.
And Old Medic is a cranky man who couldn't afford the DS so he slams it at every chance he gets. He will never cite the research he blathers on and on about the DS because it does not exist. He is so new to his VSG so he's in his happy weight loss window, assuming life will always be that way for him. In about 3 years he will come crawling to the DS forum, under a new name and avatar, asking for info on a revision to a DS. Mark my words.
Nicolle
You have a healthy dose of skepticism for people online, but none for medical professionals. Interesting. Let me guess...you think they do it out of the kindness of their hearts, too, right? That money does not motivate them at all?
The lessons learned by this collective OH group (of all surgeries) are more practical than just about anything your dietician can tell you. We all have been there--assuming our doctors and dieticians are right. But then we find our labs slipping.
People are trying to help you by savinng you a world of hurt and you won't listen. Take their concerns to your doc and dietician, by all means. Tell them 100s of people on OH tell you that you should take vites than you're taking. Do some research on your own to find out what you should be taking.There are some basic things even the conservative ASMBS recommends for post-RNY life. This is life and death, so I wish you would act like an adult and take responsibility for yourself.
The only reason your labs are "good" now (and "good" is extremely relative) is because you are so new out of the gate. Trying to fix a deficiency later is like trying to sandbag a flooding river. It's better to shore up the land ahead of time. And your weight loss? You SHOULD be happy with your weight loss at this point. It's the long-term you should be concerned about.
Seriously, check out vitalady.com and Andrea's blog (she is on this thread). There's good info there.
You seem like one of those people who need to suffer in order to learn. I'm sorry for you. It's a shame to waste time, since we all have so lilttle on this planet to begin with.
And Old Medic is a cranky man who couldn't afford the DS so he slams it at every chance he gets. He will never cite the research he blathers on and on about the DS because it does not exist. He is so new to his VSG so he's in his happy weight loss window, assuming life will always be that way for him. In about 3 years he will come crawling to the DS forum, under a new name and avatar, asking for info on a revision to a DS. Mark my words.
Nicolle
I had the kick-butt duodenal switch (DS)!
HW: 344 lbs CW: 150 lbs
Type 2 diabetes and sleep apnea GONE!
Ms. Cal Culator
on 11/21/09 1:58 pm - Tuvalu
on 11/21/09 1:58 pm - Tuvalu
On November 21, 2009 at 3:27 PM Pacific Time, marymother wrote:
Never heard of respect your elders? Maybe it's because I am Canadian. But I definately was raised to respect my elders. Even if I were to disagree with an oldmedic, I would have enough respect to not name call my elder. I would still voice my disagreement but never to show disrespect. As I say I was raised better than that.He's an asshole and only about three years older than i am...not nearly old enough for the "esteemed elder" bull****
As you should be, troll, as you should be.
Won against big bad (SoCal) Kaiser for a Duodenal Switch Haven't heard of DS? Kaiser wants it that way. Come on over & read the truth.
Hit goal (Normal BMI) on 2-10-11! I LOVE my DS!!
My approval process timeline:
02/12/09 - Dr. refused to refer me for WLS
03/03/09 - Vented/whined about it on another board, planned to just wait until next year & switch plans
Let's see what happens!
**updates in blog**
Hit goal (Normal BMI) on 2-10-11! I LOVE my DS!!
My approval process timeline:
02/12/09 - Dr. refused to refer me for WLS
03/03/09 - Vented/whined about it on another board, planned to just wait until next year & switch plans
Let's see what happens!
**updates in blog**
By the way, you didn't have CANCER, you drama queen -- you have Barrett's esophagus, a pre-cancerous condition which is caused by GERD and is treatable by BOTH RNY and DS. Too bad your surgeon wasn't comfortable with giving you the DS to treat it. (You might be interested to know that he USED to be a "vetted" and recommended DS surgeon, and then was DELETED from those lists because of issues with his practice.)
Here's some information you might find interesting:
Here's some information you might find interesting:
Dig Dis Sci. 2008 Sep;53(9):2318-29. Epub 2008 Jul 29.
Surgical management of gastroesophageal reflux disease in obesity.
Department of Surgery, Bariatric Division, University of Minnesota, 420 Delaware Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455, USA. [email protected]
Bariatric surgery is ubiquitous today. In the obese patient with comorbid gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), it is increasingly being used as an alternative to fundoplication because it not only has an effect on GERD but also on other comorbid illnesses. Traditional GERD surgery is designed to augment the mechanical barriers against reflux, decrease acid production in the stomach, improve gastric emptying, or divert bile from the stomach. Roux-en-Y gastric bypass addresses these issues in addition to resulting in profound weight loss in patients. Banding may have a positive influence in patients' GERD, though to a lesser extent. The duodenal switch provides excellent control for patients with alkaline reflux. A revision of the 1991 National Institutes of Health guidelines for determining bariatric surgical candidates is overdue, and it may be feasible to consider expanding the body mass index and comorbidity requirements to reflect the benefits offered by these techniques for GERD patients.
ah, you were there in the room, the nurse with the tiara. You will go to any extreme to dismiss anyone with out DS. How much effort does that take? Did you get the results of the biopises, no you no did not. Put what you have on the table about Warnock. Go back to your DS wonderland, and be queen of all you image you are. Come out in the open where everyone can see what you really are.
If indeed you are who you say you are . . . and not some foreign national promoting subversive activities against the US . . . or even worse a drug/and or alcohol abuser engaged in criminal computer conspiracy.
Since our session yesterday my email/internet “color settings" have darkened to an illegible coloration for most reception. Adjustment to the contrast settings on the front of the monitor resulted in appropriate light contrast for the monitor screen . . . which leds me to the conclusion that some hacker/monitor is still mucking with my communication surfer . . . if you get my drift!
Another microsoft tech support staff guided me to the contrast monitor. . . can you dump the mass riding my ass . . . sue the troglodyte(s). . . and have him/her/they incarcerated for the remainder of his/her/their natural life . . . and then some more! Thank you!
A list has already been provided to bellsouth re: potential suspects, which I will include now for microsoft:
Parking Valet/Mgmt & servive staff @ Old Vinings Inn
David & Teresa somewhere in Pacific Palisades
Tom & Katie Cruise
John & Laura.
Paul /Mark /Vincent, the Presidency of the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness
Dick, Beyond the Bell, a Division of the LA Superintendant of Schools
Jan, John-Roger’s PA, MSIA
Beth, The Institute for Individual & World Peace
Homeland Security
The US Republican Party under any alias or aka, meaning anyone that is Republian including the President and his wife.
Just about anybody in the metro Atlanta area that is logging on to my computer or any other city in the world, as that is the only reason they are on my computer is to pirate my work/destroy my credibility/project their psychological and otherwise illness onto my slate
Oh yes, let me not leave out the Catholic hierarchy in Atlanta, including the Archbishop, or any member of the Metro Atlanta Archdiocesian network
My roomate Sorayana
My previous roommate Joseph
Any citizen of Henry County
Since our session yesterday my email/internet “color settings" have darkened to an illegible coloration for most reception. Adjustment to the contrast settings on the front of the monitor resulted in appropriate light contrast for the monitor screen . . . which leds me to the conclusion that some hacker/monitor is still mucking with my communication surfer . . . if you get my drift!
Another microsoft tech support staff guided me to the contrast monitor. . . can you dump the mass riding my ass . . . sue the troglodyte(s). . . and have him/her/they incarcerated for the remainder of his/her/their natural life . . . and then some more! Thank you!
A list has already been provided to bellsouth re: potential suspects, which I will include now for microsoft:
Parking Valet/Mgmt & servive staff @ Old Vinings Inn
David & Teresa somewhere in Pacific Palisades
Tom & Katie Cruise
John & Laura.
Paul /Mark /Vincent, the Presidency of the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness
Dick, Beyond the Bell, a Division of the LA Superintendant of Schools
Jan, John-Roger’s PA, MSIA
Beth, The Institute for Individual & World Peace
Homeland Security
The US Republican Party under any alias or aka, meaning anyone that is Republian including the President and his wife.
Just about anybody in the metro Atlanta area that is logging on to my computer or any other city in the world, as that is the only reason they are on my computer is to pirate my work/destroy my credibility/project their psychological and otherwise illness onto my slate
Oh yes, let me not leave out the Catholic hierarchy in Atlanta, including the Archbishop, or any member of the Metro Atlanta Archdiocesian network
My roomate Sorayana
My previous roommate Joseph
Any citizen of Henry County
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