Alcohol after WLS
You're having an RNY next month? You are lecturing people about ways of dealing with problems rather than alcohol?
Why do you need a RNY if you are such an expert on coping mechanisms? I think most people would agree that they (we) have used food to deal with just the issues you noted. If you have those under control, what led to your needing an RNY? What changes have you made in your life so that once you do have the RNY you won't be temped to turn to food in order to cope?
And, what kind of RNY are you having that they are removing 40 feet of your intestines?
Why do you need a RNY if you are such an expert on coping mechanisms? I think most people would agree that they (we) have used food to deal with just the issues you noted. If you have those under control, what led to your needing an RNY? What changes have you made in your life so that once you do have the RNY you won't be temped to turn to food in order to cope?
And, what kind of RNY are you having that they are removing 40 feet of your intestines?
On October 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM Pacific Time, EGSuzie wrote:
I think we'd be in for bigger problems...like a colostomy bag! We don't even have 40 feet of intestine! Yikes! Like I wrote, goal overnight! They could just attach your esophagus to your rectum. You could eat and poop at the same time!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I think the moral of the story is when you point that finger theres 3 more pointing back at you!!!! and if your gettng 40 feet of intestines removed I think its time to find a different surgeon!!! LOL!! Amazing...I truely do not think this person is prepared to deal with WLS at this point.
Pre-op 210lbs (6/18/2008) Maintaining Goal! 120lbs
On October 6, 2009 at 8:35 PM Pacific Time, tacomadragon wrote:
The whole issue of drinking alcohol puzzles me. You have just had your stomach (for the most part), duodenum, and what? 40 feet of your intestine removed so that you can loose weight and you still want to eat/drink empty calories?
I am a licensed Chemical Dependency Professional and a psycho-therapist. I am not an addict and I do not follow the 12 step philosophy. I’m not just making stuff up. And no, I do not, nor have nor have I ever had a drinking problem.
Drinking alcohol is like soaking your organs in alcohol. I what world is that OK? And even more so if you have had your organs surgically altered!
And let’s be clear, getting a buzz IS getting drunk. Maybe not falling down, passing out drunk, but if you have a buzz and drive in my state, you’ll be seeing someone like me for about two years. While in many states you will not be required to complete that much treatment, you will get a DUI. With a "Buzz" you are impaired. One major problem is that no one thinks that they are impaired when they are impaired by alcohol because the part of your brain that is responsible for sound judgment is the first to shut off. (That's why the MADD slogan of "Drink, but don't drive." doesn't work. Everyone thinks they are fine to drive.)
There is one reason people drink and that is in order to cope. You’ve had a hard day, a hard week, a hard month – you get the picture; or you want to be more comfortable around people, you’re afraid of what people will think, you think you dance better with a few drinks, or you’re hiding from some psychological problem such as PTSD, Depression, out and out self hatred. What ever it is, it is a method of coping.
There must be at least a dozen harmless ways to cope, ie, make yourself more comfortable, deal with problems, learn to like yourself, work up the nerve to do whatever you are afraid to do without a drink. Granted they make take more effort than pouring a drink, but seriously!
If leaving alcohol behind is truly not a problem for you, then do just that! Leave it alone! If it upsets you to leave it alone, or if this message makes you defensive or even angry, – well, need I say more?
Whoa... hold the horses........
You claim to be a "psycho-therapist" yet in your blog you write:
~~I have a severe case of fibromyalgia, traumatic arthritis, double depression, and a severe anxiety disorder so I have very little quality time. I am, in fact on Social Security Disability (SSD) because showing up five days a week and putting in eight hours of work is impossible. ~~
And....
~~I have stopped eating sugar, carbohydrates - accept for those in leafy green vegetables - and alcohol altogether.~~
You are not quite the alcohol virgin you come off to be. Even with your 8-10 injections of insulin daily you were still drinkiing alcohol and you are chastising us for drinking socially AND at goal?
I must admit I am most impressed with this little gem:
~~If it is a problem to give up any of it - the food, the carbs, the sugar, the alcohol, the caffeine, the fat, I must start by admitting it is an addiction. I am addicted to these things because I use them to cope.~~
Thank you for showing us the other side to your supposed story!
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." The Character Gurtrude from Shakespeare's "Hamlet"
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Whoa... hold the horses........
You claim to be a "psycho-therapist" yet in your blog you write:
~~I have a severe case of fibromyalgia, traumatic arthritis, double depression, and a severe anxiety disorder so I have very little quality time. I am, in fact on Social Security Disability (SSD) because showing up five days a week and putting in eight hours of work is impossible. ~~
How does that contradict my being a psychotherapist? Does not being able to work full time mean I’m not a psychotherapist? That doesn’t make any sense. Because I'm in pain, I've lost all of my training and education???
~~I have stopped eating sugar, carbohydrates - accept for those in leafy green vegetables - and alcohol altogether.~~
You are not quite the alcohol virgin you come off to be. Even with your 8-10 injections of insulin daily you were still drinkiing alcohol and you are chastising us for drinking socially AND at goal?
Who said I was an alcohol virgin? Where did I ever say I never had a drink? Where did I say I didn’t like alcohol. Where did you get that Idea that I was drinking when I was taking 8 to 10 injections of insulin? I never said that. I did drink for far too long. Like you, I was not convinced it was harming me. It didn’t make my blood sugar spike. I didn’t drink often nor did I drink much. I thought everything was fine. Even when I was in school studying how bad it is for anyone’s health, like you, I just didn’t believe it was hurting me. Of course, I didn’t think I was eating too much or the wrong things. After all, I was following the Diabetic Exchange diet. I must admit I am most impressed with this little gem:
~~If it is a problem to give up any of it - the food, the carbs, the sugar, the alcohol, the caffeine, the fat, I must start by admitting it is an addiction. I am addicted to these things because I use them to cope.~~ This “little gem" is exactly my point. (By the way, I am using the universal “I" ) And I said IF IT IS A PROBLEM TO GIVE UP… Most of us have used food to help us cope. Where has that gotten us? I’m sure there was a time when you defended your eating just like you do your drinking. I don’t care whether you drink or not. I’m just puzzled that you would even want to. Fortunately for me, once I got the danger through my thick head, it was easy for me to quit. No cravings, no withdrawal. Now food is an entirely differently story! I’m having myself surgically altered to make myself quit eating so much. I hope I dump anything that isn’t good for me. Otherwise, I may struggle with not eating it.
Thank you for showing us the other side to your supposed story!
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Whoa... hold the horses........
You claim to be a "psycho-therapist" yet in your blog you write:
~~I have a severe case of fibromyalgia, traumatic arthritis, double depression, and a severe anxiety disorder so I have very little quality time. I am, in fact on Social Security Disability (SSD) because showing up five days a week and putting in eight hours of work is impossible. ~~
How does that contradict my being a psychotherapist? Does not being able to work full time mean I’m not a psychotherapist? That doesn’t make any sense. Because I'm in pain, I've lost all of my training and education???
~~I have stopped eating sugar, carbohydrates - accept for those in leafy green vegetables - and alcohol altogether.~~
You are not quite the alcohol virgin you come off to be. Even with your 8-10 injections of insulin daily you were still drinkiing alcohol and you are chastising us for drinking socially AND at goal?
Who said I was an alcohol virgin? Where did I ever say I never had a drink? Where did I say I didn’t like alcohol. Where did you get that Idea that I was drinking when I was taking 8 to 10 injections of insulin? I never said that. I did drink for far too long. Like you, I was not convinced it was harming me. It didn’t make my blood sugar spike. I didn’t drink often nor did I drink much. I thought everything was fine. Even when I was in school studying how bad it is for anyone’s health, like you, I just didn’t believe it was hurting me. Of course, I didn’t think I was eating too much or the wrong things. After all, I was following the Diabetic Exchange diet. I must admit I am most impressed with this little gem:
~~If it is a problem to give up any of it - the food, the carbs, the sugar, the alcohol, the caffeine, the fat, I must start by admitting it is an addiction. I am addicted to these things because I use them to cope.~~ This “little gem" is exactly my point. (By the way, I am using the universal “I" ) And I said IF IT IS A PROBLEM TO GIVE UP… Most of us have used food to help us cope. Where has that gotten us? I’m sure there was a time when you defended your eating just like you do your drinking. I don’t care whether you drink or not. I’m just puzzled that you would even want to. Fortunately for me, once I got the danger through my thick head, it was easy for me to quit. No cravings, no withdrawal. Now food is an entirely differently story! I’m having myself surgically altered to make myself quit eating so much. I hope I dump anything that isn’t good for me. Otherwise, I may struggle with not eating it.
Thank you for showing us the other side to your supposed story!
What supposed story? I didn't tell you a story. As far as I know, I haven’t told my story.
I simply asked why alcohol was an issue. I knew when I asked the question that some people would become very defensive. My response wasn’t to any individual. It was a question in general, and no one has given me an answer.
You and another couple of people for whom drinking is obviously a precious activity have tried to make the question about me. Apparently I’m a villain for asking.
Did you go to the website and check out the booklet?
It’s not written by some far right self-righteous group. It’s by the National Institution on Drug Abuse, commonly called NIDA. Basically they exist to channel most of the government money available for the study of Drug Abuse, including alcohol. They also report on that research. Another function is education toward the prevention of drug abuse.
The booklet basically asks the same question. Why drink? I know it’s a personal choice. I just want you to ask yourself why you would make the choice to drink. I don’t care about your answer. I just think you should know.
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