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on 8/8/19 7:56 am
Liquid cannot stretch out your stomach. So that's nothing to worry about!
Sip something constantly, whether it's shake or water. Doesn't matter how much of which at one time.
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
on 8/8/19 7:55 am
I converted to VSG to RNY because of GERD 10 days ago. My acid was quite bad, but I have not had any GERD trouble since coming home from the hospital.
Per my surgeon, most people don't lose nearly as much weight after a conversion surgery, and when they do it's much slower. My goal is to lose only 50lb, and the doctor says he's had people with much lower goals-- or even people who just wanted to maintain after changing the surgery.
I did look into the alternatives as well. Fundoplication is not an option for us, as we do not have any excess stomach to use for the procedure. Outcomes for the LINX are not nearly as good; research shows that about 75% of patients see their GERD mostly/totally resolved, whereas RNY is 90 - 95%. Plus there may be some complications with it; I recall reading that the implant makes it physically impossible to throw up, which seems problematic.
Good luck!
Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!
500 pounds I was at 16 pressure. My current autosetting readout ranges 6.8 to 8.1, but my 90 avg is always 7.0 (which is the pressure my machine pushes 90% of the activation cycle). Get the autoset cpap and you don't have to adjust titration as you lose weight. It will automatically reset to what you need to keep hypopneas low. I have my annual visit with the sleep doctor next week. He will read out the machine documentation and determine if I need a new sleep study to assess dropping the machine. But I know I need it still since about once every 14 day I hit 8 on the average. They want all readings below 7 before doing the test. Don't mess with this - get the study and know.
HW 510 / SW 424/ GW 175 (stretch goal to get 10 under) / CW 160 (I'm near the charts ideal weight - wonder if I can stay here)
RNY November 2016
PS: L/R arm skin removal; belt panniculectomy - April, 2019
it's a liquid. Liquids go right through you, so you won't stretch out your stomach. I could drink them fairly quickly (quicker than what I was told would be the case), so I was always worried about stretching out my stomach, but I was assured that that wouldn't happen with a shake - or any kind of fluid.
(edited to add that I didn't CHUG them, but I could always drink them faster than what we were told we'd be able to do. It could be that they told us the 4 oz thing just to slow us down so we'd get used to not inhaling food items, though - not sure)
Hello! I'm one week post-op and on the full-liquid diet, and I've been having trouble getting my protein in as well as getting all 64 ounces of water. I can usually stay up late sipping and finish up my water intake, but I'm really struggling with getting in all my protein.
I have seen a few people online talk about continuously working on finishing one protein shake, sipping at in constantly until they finish, so I guess I'm asking if that's what you did, as well? I've just been drinking four ounces of it and then going back to water, but that obviously means it's relatively impossible to get as much protein in as I need.
So I'm wondering if I've misunderstood how I'm supposed to be using protein shakes. Am I supposed to only drink the four ounces of them at a time, or should I continuously sip at them until I've finished? I think my concern regarding doing that would be that it would stretch my stomach out. Is that unfounded, just me over-worrying?
Also sorry if this is a dumb question (it probably is!) but I am just really concerned that I'm going to have some side effects from not getting in all the protein I need.
Getting enough electrolytes, sodium, magnesium, potassium, can be tricky for us, post op WLS. Our portions are smaller than normal, and often some of the snacks, like yogurt, or protein shake, may no have enough even sodium to maintain proper electrolytes levels. Unfortunately our body needs correct amount of the minerals in the blood to maintain PH and circulation. But to do that - it may pull the minerals from our muscles, and even bones. Testing blood levels - will only tell you how well your body manage to maintain the minerals level in the blood.
Muscles spasms often indicate a shortage of the electrolytes. Or not enough water maintain in the muscles. The 2 things that keep water in the muscles are sodium and ..glycogen, the stored carbs. When we follow a low carb diet - and don't get enough sodium - the mineral imbalance and hydration is disrupted. In hot months or when I am more active, i often need to take sodium capsule or eat high sodium food like pickles, to replenish the sodium and other minerals in my body.
I have sciatica in my left leg. That leg is already compromised, so when my minerals, electrolytes are off, this leg would be affected first. But that would be muscles, not joints. Joint can hurt me due to spine - joints misalignment as I lost weight. Or they may be getting damaged, due to low calcium and minerals , vitamins deficiencies. I.e vit D, or iron, or not enough good fats, or... more things than I have space here to mention.
My joints start really hurting me app 2 years ago. I have IBS, and I SIBO, and now think I developed a leaky gut, that is causing food allergies and intolerance. Unfortunately, that affects my joints, causing increased inflammation I already have due my age and to osteoarthritis (inherited, genetic).
Taking fish oil to help the joints, other minerals for joints may help to slow down the damage that is probably there already. Like with many other things, weather affect my joints. The older I get, the more sensitive I get. It sucks. But - it is what it is.
Also - as you lost weight - yo probably also lost some padding around the joints. When I lost fat and muscle mass, my joints got more "wobbly", it was much easier for me to injure my joint that when I was heavy and more "grounded".
I am adding fish oil and other supplements (turmeric, etc) to see if I can help my joints and bones. i also added collagen in a drink, to help with teh bones and joints, and .. my gut issues. Collagen is not a complete protein, so it cant be counted toward our minimum protein needs, but collagen is great for skin, joints, hair, our gut lining, and many more things. I try to get at least 10-20 gr of hydrolyzed collagen per day. Bone broth, or any type of skin (like in pork rinds) can supply a lot of that.
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
DR K is brilliant from what I heard. He is one of a very very few who actually could attempt to do that and really help the patient.
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
It can be. After losing a lot of weight, the way I walk/run is all jacked up. It might be wise to do a consult with a physical therapist to check out your body mechanics.
VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)
Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170
TrendWeight | Food Blog (sort of functional) | Journal (down for maintenance)
I have osteoarthritis in my knees. I'm 6 weeks post msg and have had more pain in my knees than before. My concern I will bring up at my next dr visit will be whether my body is absorbing the right amount of calcium and minerals for my arthritis. I know this isn't your issue but it is a good reminder to always make sure you are getting the adequate amount of calcium absorption.
I dont think it is normal or related to your weight loss surgery.
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