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Holy Smokes. I have to just admit.. I went into this so uneducated and unprepared. I will now do the work I should've prepared for. So much more preparing and planning. I CAN NOT trust my eyes. No eyeballing for me as I still have "fat eyes" with "Fat brain" ugghhh.
Definitely a learning time. I will change!! I am determined. I appreciate the insight. VERY helpful.
Are you on a PPI (medication to reduce stomach acid)? Most surgeons prescribe one, and if yours didn't, I suggest you ask them about it and mention that you're having a lot of problem with hunger.
"I need to be ok with putting food away or throwing out rest if I can not finish and not just keep it around till I feel a little more room."
Yes! Keeping foods around and taking another bite once you begin to feel less full will hinder your progress.
I wasted a lot of food my first 6-9 months. I felt bad about it, but it takes time to learn what you can eat. I think you need to give yourself permission to waste a little food while you're learning. Weigh/measure everything and you will begin to learn how much of different kinds of foods it takes to make you feel full. I record everything I eat almost every day, but even on the occasional day I take a break from that, I still measure.
There are a lot of foods I measure not to watch the calories, but just so I don't try to eat more than I physically can, and waste food. For example, from a calorie perspective it doesn't matter if I accidentally serve myself twice as much steamed broccoli, but it I try to eat that much my stomach will complain for an hour!
One thing that can make measuring less of a chore is if you dedicate special plates, bowls or cups for the things you eat most frequently. You'll learn to use the decorations for measuring things. To the bottom of the yellow daisy is a quarter cup, to the top of the blue ring is 3/4 cup, etc. I know that a heaping spoonful of a dry powder substance with my regular spoons is 10g. It reduces the number of times you have to go to the scale, or wash out a measuring cup.
Also, smaller plates (e.g. the size of a saucer) and bowls really help. Sorry if I mentioned this before to you; I forget who I've suggested what to!
The weighing, measuring, planning, recording all seems like a lot of work when you're right after surgery, but it all becomes second nature soon. Some things I eyeball, because they're very low calorie and I'm never tempted to overeat them. For example, I will eyeball 100 ml of unsweetened almond milk (only 13 cal for my brand). I will also eyeball a teaspoon of sunflower seeds because I'm not that fond of them, but I couldn't trust myself to do that with peanut butter! Even the things I eyeball, I double-check my measurements occasionally to re-callibrate my eye!
The trick was if I ate anything with flour or sugar, the hunger came back. With no sugar, no flour, and no fruit, I had zero hunger. As long as I had zero hunger, it was really easy. I did not add apples until after 18 months and below goal. I did not add any other fruit until well into year three.
Weight loss surgery does not make you lose weight. What makes the weight come off is low calories.
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Have you checked the OH Post-Op Planner? It was accurate for me.
As the saying goes, this is a marathon, NOT a sprint!! Just keep following your plan and you have a great shot of losing it all.
Laura in Texas
53 years old; 5'7" tall; HW: 339 (BMI=53); GW: 140 CW: 170 (BMI=27)
RNY: 09-17-08 Dr. Garth Davis
brachioplasty: 12-18-09 Dr. Wainwright; lbl/bl: 06-28-11 Dr. LoMonaco
"May your choices reflect your hopes and not your fears."
wow. I wish I didn't have hunger. Or anything that simulates hunger. I need to dial back and really stick to LOW LOW carb. (but 500 calories yikes) I wish I could be as disciplined as you. Sometimes I feel my Pouch was left too big. :-) I need to just to focus and stick to it. My fingers crossed I will reach my goal weight at one point.
I was fortunate that I had no hunger at all after surgery. I had very low carb, high protein. I drank a lot of protein shakes. They were awful back then, but I said I would gladly drink mud shakes if that is what I was going to need to do to lose the weight.
One protein shake of about 12 ounces did me for most of the day. My calories were around 500 per day for the first few months. I had protein shakes, ricotta cheese with spaghetti sauce, hard cheeses, applesauce, tuna, and chicken thighs. No bread, rice, potatoes, cereal, crackers, rolls, pasta, noodles or sugars.
At two months out I was allowed to add protein bars and non-starchy vegetables. I would have a cup of vegetable soup for a meal. I was also allowed to have strawberries after two months, but no other fruit.
At three months I added salad. That first salad was delicious. At three months, I also had my first restaurant meal of a tiny filet mignon steak. After that I tried small servings of pork but could not keep it down. Chicken breast was also too dry for me and I could not eat eggs at all. I could eat softer fish and sometimes salmon would be OK for me.
I bought an ice cream machine with its own compressor and made my protein shakes into protein ice cream. I had that for many meals. I also made flaxseed microwave muffin in a mug for most meals. I was at 142 at six months out and stayed there for a year, then lost down to 128. My weight loss during months two through six was around two pounds a week.
I added back bread during year three. It is very easy for me to gain weight now, so I stick to Weigh****chers points system, weigh every day with a smart scale, and still eat very little flours, sugars, or fruit. I need to stay at 1400 calories a day to maintain.
I put an unbelievable amount of food into the garbage. I look at it like this. It is either going into the garbage or into my body where I will then put it into the sewer system. I just put it directly into the garbage. No starving child in Africa is going to be helped by my eating too much food.
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Hi White Dove. Thanks for the input. Can you share your progress how it went month by month? how was the 1st few months? Did you go super low carb? When did you add exercise? were you super strict with ounces of food at a time? did you feel hungry? Did you graze? For instance if you have a meal and you get full do you put away till next real meal time or do you wait like me an hour or so to have more room and continue eating it? Sorry so many questions. I have same goal of 135 in my head and I am ok with waiting just want to make sure I change behaviors that would impede it. I think I need to still go super low and I need to be ok with putting food away or throwing out rest if I can not finish and not just keep it around till I feel a little more room. That's in my head. Big rant of my bad eating patterns needing to get worked out and not truly sticking to guidelines.
Thanks
My surgery weight was 195 and it took me 18 months to get to my lowest weight of 128. My goal is 136.
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My experience was counter to most people I talked to. I was STARVING until I was able to eat solid foods. I'm about 90 days out now and while I still feel my stop signals quickly, they are a little less than before. The biggest thing I can say is to trust the process. Its life changing and so worth it. If you put in the work, you will be so happy. Good luck!