Why no water while eating?

carolw1229
on 10/14/17 6:05 pm
VSG on 10/18/17

My vsg surgery is Wednesday. I'm ready. But can someone explain why you can't drink water with a meal?

thank you

C

Caff
on 10/14/17 6:16 pm

My understanding is that it pushes the food down through your stomach, which means you can eat more than you should and the food doesn't have enough time to digest and allow the intestines to absorb nutrients.

Some say it stretches the pouch - that is debatable.

Referral - 05/16, Orientation @ HRH - 19/08/16, Surgeon - 06/04/17, NUT/SW/RN - 26/6/17 VSG - 11/10/17 Pre-Op - 27 lbs M1: 22 lbs M2: 14 lbs M3: 11 lbs M4: 13 lbs M5: 9 lbs M6: 9 lbs M7: 7 lbs

Gwen M.
on 10/14/17 6:39 pm
VSG on 03/13/14

Yeah.. liquid can't stretch the sleeve unless the pyloric valve isn't functioning correctly for whatever reason. And that's a different pathology all together!

VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)

Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170

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Gwen M.
on 10/14/17 6:38 pm
VSG on 03/13/14

There are two reasons - one is that it could make you uncomfortably full in the short term. But the "real" reason is that liquid added to your stomach helps the bolus to be converted to chyme more quickly and once chyme is formed, this triggers your pyloric valve to open and empty into the small intestine. The longer the bolus to chyme process takes, the longer you'll feel sated. Which is a good thing! Yay restriction.

So the short version is "makes food go through you more quickly, defeating the purpose of the restriction part of surgery."

VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)

Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170

TrendWeight | Food Blog (sort of functional) | Journal (down for maintenance)

Gwen M.
on 10/14/17 6:41 pm
VSG on 03/13/14

I guess a good way to "feel" this in action, sort of, is to drink liquid - you can drink a lot. It doesn't make you feel full. But then you eat solid food, and you can't eat as much in terms of volume as the liquid you could drink because it does make you feel full.

So if you add liquid to solid foods, you lose the benefit of the full thing.

VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)

Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170

TrendWeight | Food Blog (sort of functional) | Journal (down for maintenance)

White Dove
on 10/15/17 6:26 am - Warren, OH

The no drinking with food is the rule for RNY. When VSG became popular about eight years ago, the NUTs just passed on the RNY rules, because there were no VSG rules.

With RNY the pyloric valve is gone so food runs right out if we drink while we are eating. With VSG the pyloric valve is still intact, so drinking with food would not cause the stomach to empty immediately.

As Gwen pointed out, the liquid would make you feel restriction for a shorter period, so it is still a good rule to follow.

I always drink a lot of ice water, right up until I pick up my fork, then don't drink again for at least 30 minutes after finishing a meal.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Caff
on 10/15/17 9:51 am

Such a good point - literally all of the literature I was given by the hospital was for rny, which is quite frustrating.

Referral - 05/16, Orientation @ HRH - 19/08/16, Surgeon - 06/04/17, NUT/SW/RN - 26/6/17 VSG - 11/10/17 Pre-Op - 27 lbs M1: 22 lbs M2: 14 lbs M3: 11 lbs M4: 13 lbs M5: 9 lbs M6: 9 lbs M7: 7 lbs

White Dove
on 10/15/17 1:57 pm - Warren, OH

VSG was considered experimental surgery until about five years ago. There is no real difference between RNY and VSG after surgery. You lose weight faster with RNY and you might get sick from sugar with RNY.

Other than that the diet is the same and weight loss can be the same.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

carolw1229
on 10/15/17 8:25 am
VSG on 10/18/17

Thank you very much everyone. Now it makes sense.

(deactivated member)
on 10/15/17 3:18 pm
VSG on 10/11/16

I have discovered that I can drink water right up to the point where I start eating. The "30 minutes before" rule is null and void. FOR ME. I cannot emphasize that enough. For me. It may be different for you.

As for the 30 minutes after, it only took me one experiment to understand they were telling the truth. In that one instance, I ate, and then I drank some water. I was as sick as the proverbial dog. I did not care why. All I know is, I won't do it again. Experience is a good teacher, but the smartest among us do not have to **** on the spark plug to see if it is really true.

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