Had surgery 3 weeks ago. Disapointed beyond words.
What part of "In a way, I feel like I've already failed again. " sounded like blaming everyone else to you? All I stated was that I feel like I've been through this twice with no real benefit. Clearly both of these have worked for other people, so I (or something about me) Is more likely to blame.
Yes, part of my stomach was removed. Yes, I apparently DO heal quickly, I never felt any pain, nausea, or even discomfort, and I can easily still eat far larger portions that I was promised I should be able to with no pain or discomfort. You're wrong.
Yes, I'm doing my best to stick to the plan given to me. Yes, I'm eating protein. Yeah, I know it's just a tool.
Not sure why you bothered to parrot back these same things that everyone repeats over and over, but thanks.
on 7/13/17 8:01 am
wow you do not have to be rude, i was not parroting anything wow, someone responds kindly to your post even said i understand how you feel and thats how you respond?
you are incredibly rude, what i said is just as valid as anyone and frankly your 3 weeks out and your already saying you can eat larger meals, why are you even testing if you can eat larger meals? eat the size of the meals they tell you
i wont respond again seen as your being so rude i was trying to help what a horrible person.
I'm not trying to start or join a war, but I also thought your post was a bit harsh. He admitted throughout that his expectations were too high and was merely expressing frustration. I don't interpret any of his comments as blame shifting. We are all trying to support each other, but if you are going to take the tough love approach, you need to accept that others may occasionally find it unnecessarily harsh.
I didn't think formymind's response was even a tiny bit har****hink the OP was being too sensitive and reading too much into it.
6'3" tall, male.
Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.
M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.
Many people never feel those things - it doesn't mean they heal quickly, it means that nerves are severed, etc, so those things aren't felt. Just because you "can easily still eat far larger portions that I was promised I should be able to with no pain or discomfort" doesn't mean that you should - nor does it mean that you're not doing damage to your stomach that you can't feel right now.
VSG with Dr. Salameh - 3/13/2014
Diagnosed with Binge Eating Disorder and started Vyvanse - 7/22/2016
Reconstructive Surgeries with Dr. Michaels - 6/5/2017 (LBL & brachioplasty), 8/14/2017 (UBL & mastopexy), 11/6/2017 (medial leg lift)
Age 42 Height 5'4" HW 319 (1/3/2014) SW 293 (3/13/2014) CW 149 (7/16/2017)
Next Goal 145 - normal BMI | Total Weight Lost 170
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When I started on soft foods I was scared out of my mind to eat too much because I had a complication during surgery that would have gotten worse if I threw up. While I probably could have finished that 1 scrambled egg I ate, my fear made me stop. Looking back I don't know if I was what I now consider full, or if I was just playing it really, really safe. Either way, the first two months after surgery, I did not even try to eat larger meals.
I also agree with some other people above about acid production. I do remember thinking I was hungry when it was just acid, so that is very common I think. At 5 months out I now don't experience hunger very often or have a lot of acid.
Highest Weight ~400, Surgery Weight 293, Current Weight 227, Goal Weight 180
Highest BMI: 59.1, Current BMI: 32, Goal BMI: 25
VSG on February 20, 2017
Many people feel hunger post-op, men and women. It's a myth that cravings go away, and that hunger goes away. If cravings went away I'd be rejoicing myself, heh. Mine are still here, and I have to work with them.
Hunger is a curious thing. It's not just physiological - it's also psychological. It is very difficult to reset hunger once we are obese.
What helps is maximizing the biological aspect. Higher carbohydrate diets stimulate hunger. Protein and fat dull hunger considerably. Also, we are often hungry when we are thirsty, or have acid issues. Do you take a PPI? It's very common for men and women with uncontrolled acid to be hungry post-op.
The brain is the hard part, though. The brain is actually the organ that dictates hunger, not the stomach, and it sounds like your hunger may be head hunger or habit. Do you notice you are hungry when bored, lonely, sad, angry, or frustrated? Because, that's not true physical hunger.
I struggle with cravings all the time. That is why I work with a counselor.
As for amount of weight loss, the more weight to lose, the faster it is. If you have under 80-100 pounds to lose it will be much slower. If you are losing slowly the first 2 months post-op, reduce carb amounts if they are high, because carbs slow weight gain to a considerable degree.
I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!
It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life
My ideas about hunger post-op were given to me by the 4 people I knew personally who had had the surgery, and were "cautiously" encouraged by the surgeon herself. But I knew (and know) that it's different for everyone. For whatever reason, I had just convinced myself that they would be at least reduced, if not eliminated.
I understand too that at least part of my hunger is mental. I'm an emotional eater and I know surgery can't fix that.
I've been on a low carb diet for more than a year now. Less than 100g a day give or take, some days more, some days less. Yes, I'm taking a PPI daily, per my surgeon's request.
No, I have way more than 100lbs to lose. Carb amounts are pretty low, below the 100g a day thing I was on pre-surgery, in fact, my nutritionist asked me to please start eating some carbs, because she feels my hunger might be related to that?
I'm eating less than 1000 calories a day, and I am losing weight, very slowly, but my issue is that I'm miserable doing it. I could diet and be miserable without surgery, so what was the point? That's the issue I'm struggling with now. It just seems like it's been a colossal waste of time.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.