Interesting article- high protein diet for weight loss does not help insulin resistance...?

Donna L.
on 10/13/16 6:46 am - Chicago, IL
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Whey protein especially is known for spiking insulin drastically, even more than other protein powders. I wonder how many people are super sensitive to this and don't even know, and how many nutritionists are not aware.

 

I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!

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H.A.L.A B.
on 10/13/16 7:04 am

Lol. Yeap. That's how I found out...and I was trying to do so good and I was conststly crashing.. And I could not understand why. Then someone directed me a link on study on insulin release in "normal" men after they ingested whey... You probably seen that..

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/69.full

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413098

 

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happyteacher
on 10/12/16 6:51 pm

What a great answer- love that you are scientifically prepped and knowledgeable! 

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Peeches
on 10/12/16 2:35 am
VSG on 10/03/16 with

I find this concept interesting, too.  Speaking in generalities, it seems to me that every person should be prescribed a 100g protein per day regimen despite age, sex, height, genetics, etc. cannot make sense. I'll bet there will be tons of publishing coming out on this from the metabolic researchers. Keep wondering, keep asking. 

The thing I noticed about my high protein diet was the drop in my GFR and the rise in my serum creatinine. I do not have a history of kidney disease. My team had conflicting opinions on how it should be handled. I'm certainly still very much learning about all of this, but my gut tells me that high protein across the board is not the cure-all. 

psychoticparrot
on 10/12/16 7:11 am

Even though my surgeon recommended a very high-protein diet post-op, I never followed it, for 2 reasons. First, I think diets that are close to 100% protein are not healthy; just my opinion, gathered from reading many books about nutrition. Second, I find it extremely difficult to eat that much protein. I've never been a fan of large amounts of meat; I'm not fond of the taste and texture of it.

I hold my protein intake at about 35-40g/day (always eaten first at meals), supplemented by high-fiber vegetables and fruit (which I believe also slow down absorption). I take my vitamin/mineral supplements religiously.

My surgeon and nutritionist are okay with this diet because it's been working great for me. My bloodwork is always good with nary a whiff of abnormal blood sugar levels. 

I will say, however, that I've not lost weight as fast as some, though I'm not sure that my lower-protein diet is the cause. At 1 year, 8 months post-op, I'm struggling to take off those last 15 pounds to reach my personal goal weight (I hit my surgeon's goal weight months ago). Maybe more protein would help take off those stubborn pounds, but I like how I'm eating and am willing to be patient about those last pounds.

Just my two cents about high-protein diets. With an n=1 sample size, I certainly can't say my diet is good for everybody. But I do think it's a more balanced and healthier way of eating.

 

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H.A.L.A B.
on 10/13/16 5:03 am

I see a huge issue with that study. 

"We provided all of the meals, and all the women ate the same base diet," Mittendorfer explained. "The only thing we modified was protein content, with very minimal changes in the amount of fat or carbohydrates. We wanted to hone in on the effects of protein in weight loss."

So they did not increased protein while decresing calories and carbs. They just added proteins. I can't see how this would help anyone. Is like you can eat what you eat but add extra proteins... 

There is not enough details about capries, activity, anything else...

Most post op WLS concentrate on higher proteins less carbs...that allow to provide enough proteins for post op WLS person, considering that we have smaller stomach, or pouches. Plus most of us - specially at the beginning are on PPI - which make digestion and assimilation of proteins diminished. 

RMY and DS - we need extra proteins at least in year 1-2 post op due to malabsorbtion. 

First few years I needed 100gr + per day to maintain low normal blood protein level. Now - 8 years post op - since I am back on PPI, and don't use shakes but real food - I still need 80-100 gr per day. (my digestion due to PPI is compromised) . the results? Low body fat % with great muscle mass and thick bones,  without major exercises. 

My proteins come from meats, eggs, fish. nuts, ...

 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

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