question re fullness
I was discharged two days after surgery straight onto purees. I had surgery 5 days ago and so far I think I am tolerating them fairly well. I can eat an egg over about 20mins for example or a whole protein shake over half an hour. Does this sound normal? I am a bit confused as to what fullness feels like! Weird I know! But I certainly haven't had any of my old feelings of fullness. what I am getting after a couple of mouthfuls is a feeling of pressure - like someone has placed a weight over my upper abdomen. I keep feeling like I am not going to be able to breathe but I can with no problems. It subsides after a few seconds and then I can eat some more. Has anyone else experienced this?
On another note I found myself thinking how nice a piece of chocolate would be today:( Guess they didn't operate on my brain! I can see that I am going to need to be very vigilant in changing my habits here because I have no doubt that melted chocolate would go down just fine!
On another note I found myself thinking how nice a piece of chocolate would be today:( Guess they didn't operate on my brain! I can see that I am going to need to be very vigilant in changing my habits here because I have no doubt that melted chocolate would go down just fine!
A cooked egg not blended is not a puree......
Here is a situation that just gives me shivers..........
I used to preach.... follow your surgeons plan.....
I don't give a dang what your surgeons plan is....it would be in your best interest to keep it to liquids for 2 weeks !!!! Than move to purees
Danger signs written all over your post.......
Eating an egg and trying to find full 5 days out just doesn't sound right......!!!!
Heal up up first.....!!!!
frisco
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Based on my experience, that does not sound normal. At 5 days out, I couldn't get down a protein shake in a DAY. I had two weeks of liquids before moving onto purees. Once I started purees, i scrambled an egg and then pureed it with extra milk to make it liquidy. I couldn't even eat 1/2. In both cases, when I drank/ate something, I had a definite feeling of fullness and once I felt that, I couldn't put anything else in for some time.
Please take some time to work on the psychological part of this. You mention about chocolate and thinking about how it would go down melted. Not a good idea... don't even allow yourself to think about it. Hard, I know. At 8 weeks out, I've not gone near chocolate at all since surgery.
I have to agree with Frisco's suggestion for you to stay on liquids for 2 weeks. Your sleeve is so new and so vulnerable right now. Why risk it?
Good luck.
Please take some time to work on the psychological part of this. You mention about chocolate and thinking about how it would go down melted. Not a good idea... don't even allow yourself to think about it. Hard, I know. At 8 weeks out, I've not gone near chocolate at all since surgery.
I have to agree with Frisco's suggestion for you to stay on liquids for 2 weeks. Your sleeve is so new and so vulnerable right now. Why risk it?
Good luck.
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Now your've got me worried! I am in New Zealand and I think my surgeon might have a bit of a different technique to what is common in your part of the world. For one thing he sucked all the air out of me and I've had zero gas pains and no real tummy pain either except this feeling of pressure. I'm wondering if my stomach is bigger or maybe less swollen than others as I've had no problems getting my liquids in since day three too - he did say that he used a 32 bougie though? He was very expensive (NZ$27,000!) and he did talk quite a bit about new techniques he was going to use to speed recovery and minimise trauma to my stomach. He is considered to be a top surgeon in our country so I am loathe to totally disregard his instructions - and he has been ringing me at home every day to check in on me too. But you guys have lived this so I am totally at a loss as to what to do now!
Don't worry my egg was paste and I may be thinking about chocolate but I am certainly not going to sabotage myself by starting on that path! I am just becoming aware of my own thought processes as I go.
Don't worry my egg was paste and I may be thinking about chocolate but I am certainly not going to sabotage myself by starting on that path! I am just becoming aware of my own thought processes as I go.
I think you should follow your surgeons instructions. see,Frisco can't have it both ways,eithher you follow your instructions or you don't but he really shouldn't be basing his advice on what HE wants to see people do.
That pressure feeling is your new full sign. I usually stop there and then have another small meal in two hours or so. The nervs in your stomach are cut and until they are healed you won't feel the restriction as much.
I was able to tolerate all fluids early on,full and clears and had no trouble moving on the the next stages. I still have no trouble and I woul;d count myself lucky not to have any trouble it I was you.
Does your plan give you a measured amount that you should be eating at each stage? If so,mesuring will help you to keep from overeating till your nerves heal.
Gl,
Holly
That pressure feeling is your new full sign. I usually stop there and then have another small meal in two hours or so. The nervs in your stomach are cut and until they are healed you won't feel the restriction as much.
I was able to tolerate all fluids early on,full and clears and had no trouble moving on the the next stages. I still have no trouble and I woul;d count myself lucky not to have any trouble it I was you.
Does your plan give you a measured amount that you should be eating at each stage? If so,mesuring will help you to keep from overeating till your nerves heal.
Gl,
Holly
On August 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM Pacific Time, hollykim wrote:
I think you should follow your surgeons instructions. see,Frisco can't have it both ways,eithher you follow your instructions or you don't but he really shouldn't be basing his advice on what HE wants to see people do. That pressure feeling is your new full sign. I usually stop there and then have another small meal in two hours or so. The nervs in your stomach are cut and until they are healed you won't feel the restriction as much.
I was able to tolerate all fluids early on,full and clears and had no trouble moving on the the next stages. I still have no trouble and I woul;d count myself lucky not to have any trouble it I was you.
Does your plan give you a measured amount that you should be eating at each stage? If so,mesuring will help you to keep from overeating till your nerves heal.
Gl,
Holly
Totally cool........you have a point.....
What I want is to see people do well and not hurt themselves......
Do you know that your post totally contradicts itself and has flaws????
- Pressure.....that's what you don't want when your healing.
- Cut nerves in your staple line can mask pain. (as well as the pain meds)
- Your telling her to measure .....so she dosn't over do it.....that's all I'm sayin....
frisco
SW 338lbs. GW 175lbs. Goal in 11 months. CW 148lbs. WL 190lbs.
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On August 19, 2011 at 7:30 PM Pacific Time, frisco wrote:
On August 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM Pacific Time, hollykim wrote:
I think you should follow your surgeons instructions. see,Frisco can't have it both ways,eithher you follow your instructions or you don't but he really shouldn't be basing his advice on what HE wants to see people do. That pressure feeling is your new full sign. I usually stop there and then have another small meal in two hours or so. The nervs in your stomach are cut and until they are healed you won't feel the restriction as much.
I was able to tolerate all fluids early on,full and clears and had no trouble moving on the the next stages. I still have no trouble and I woul;d count myself lucky not to have any trouble it I was you.
Does your plan give you a measured amount that you should be eating at each stage? If so,mesuring will help you to keep from overeating till your nerves heal.
Gl,
Holly
Totally cool........you have a point.....
What I want is to see people do well and not hurt themselves......
Do you know that your post totally contradicts itself and has flaws????
- Pressure.....that's what you don't want when your healing.
- Cut nerves in your staple line can mask pain. (as well as the pain meds)
- Your telling her to measure .....so she dosn't over do it.....that's all I'm sayin....
frisco
Pressure that is why I suggested measuring so she doesn't get to that point.
ccut nerves in the stomach can mask pain,restriction,what ever you want to call it.
Everyone wants everyone else on this journey to do well and not hurt themselves. Just because everyone's plan is not just like yours doesn't mean they are not valid ,safe and worthy plans.
I think you give excellent advice many times,but I do think you do others a disservice by always insisting that your plan is the only one guaranteed to bring success.
That's all I'm sayin....
Unless your surgeon is using some new cut/staple technologies...... your staple line is as strong/fragile as everybody elses......
Here is the problem.....everything is fine while your pyloric valve is open....you have flow for liquids through your sleeve while your pyloric valve is open......
As soon as you eat something that makes your pyloric valve close..... that's when whatever you ingest stays in your sleeve for pre-digestion..... that's when you can build up pressure (feeling full is pressure) in your sleeve and tax your un-healed staple line.
Yah see...everyone is different.....your pastey egg may not be closing your pyloric...which is a good thing for now and you not getting full says that it's probably not.....
For me.... at about 6 weeks out....starting soft foods......scrambled egg (1/2) was enough for me to feel some un-comfort.
I guess do what your gonna do.....but regardless on how much you spent on your surgery....your instructions don't sound very good......
I just don't want you to hurt yourself.... I could just shut-up and think...."What ever...Good Luck with that"
frisco
SW 338lbs. GW 175lbs. Goal in 11 months. CW 148lbs. WL 190lbs.
" To eat is a necessity, but to eat intelligently is an art "
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