Any docs do the Gastric Sleeve Plication?

On April 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM Pacific Time, rbb825 wrote: Our stomachs are so much smaller than yours, we can't eat that much.  I never would have lost my weight without the malabsorbtion and the tiny portions.  That is why they have so many different types of surgeries. Actually, VSG stomachs are smaller than a pouch in terms of the amount of food that can fit into them. At one year out, a typical RnY patient can eat about a cup of food while a typical VSGer can only eat about 1/2 a cup. (Give or take for both of them.)

I think maybe you are thinking of the band? They have a full stomach. Ours is the size of thick magic marker by one year out and also it's made from a part of the stomach that doesn't stretch much at all so it's harder to fit a lot in.

Btw, my surgeon finds that his VSG patients lose as much weight as his RnY patients. This is probably because we are so restricted. A lot of DS surgeons are also making the DS sleeve the same size as the VSG pouch so they don't have to do as drastic a reduction of the intestines (less malabsorption) and so it lessens the risks.

 
That really depends on the surgeon.  I do not agree that a bypassed pouch is smaller than a sleeved stomach.  I can eat 3oz of dense protein MAX and about 5oz of soft foods.  With bypass the pouch continues to stretch (as it is designed to) and you guys can out eat me hands down.

Understand, I'm not knocking your surgery type in the least.  But it's not necessarily true what you write.

all the rny people that I know can eat way more than me.

mary

i know when i had my surgery vsg was still considered investigational, but it had been done for a few years and they had already discovered that making the sleeve using a 64 bougle led to regain yrs later.... and hence why alot of surgeons  now use 48f-32f  today...

i  Think that after seing that would make me a little cautious on jumping in too early on new procedures until they have at  least proven them selves to be safe and the results from it were showing great results.at  least being able to show 5 yrs results.

and as macdame said above stomach stapling has been done in the past and it never worked if you goodle stomach stapling you will find those results online...

i can understand people thinking its safer not to remove your stoma*****ase of a leak or thinking that maybe if they didnt like it they could have it reversed.. but i think if you choose your surgeon wisely you can lower your risk... one of the questions that i asked my surgeon was how many patients have died... she told me none  so i figured even if i was unlucky enough to be in the -1 % of patients that did have a leak none had died so no reason to think i would be her first to do so.
so even if it meant time in hospital recovering, goiing on her history id still be alive.

As for wanting it reversed i decided that if  what i have after surgery is a perfectly working stomach, why would i need it reversed?? after all the stomach size i had was leading me to death i had gerd i was borderine diabetic and only getting fatter as time went on.. nope even if my biggest fear  was to become a reality and i was to gain all my weight back and iwas to fail this surgery there is no way i want it back ...


 

I want them to rip my stomach out and throw it in the trash! Good riddance!

Just do the normal sleeve if you are not going to use the stomach get rid of it. The sleeve is very safe . Everone I have talk to on here love theres I know I for one I love mine.

Vinny Mac

 I'm just over a year out and do NOT miss my stomach at all!!!!!  Do Not want it back!

I enjoy ALL foods, just satisfied with much smaller portions!  This has been the perfect solution for me who has had a life time of yo-yo dieting!!!!!

I'm soooo HAPPY!!!! I love my VSG!   Reached goal in 6 months and have had NO trouble maintaining it!!

It's WONDERFUL!!!!!!

Thank You!

I hear that there is a Doc somewhere in South Louisiana doing it but like the rest of the posters I would wait till more results are out. If in a year or so it looks promising maybe, BUT my biggest regret is waiting so long to get surgery to begin with so there is no way I would want to wait for it to be proven to be a good surgery when there is another surgery that is already proven to be great!

That is nothing more than stomach stapling, which is not done by any ethical surgeon in the USA any longer, because it simply does not work.  That technique has been completely discredited.

Any surgeon that is touting it should be avoided like the plague!

I saw your comment and wanted to correct the misperception that gastric sleeve plication is 'nothing more than stomach stapling'.   I work with Dr. Lopez Corvala at Hospital Angeles Tijuana and I have seen the surgery - there are NO staples involved. There are no devices of any kind involved. The stomach is reduced through the use of suturing and invagination.  The technique has not been discredited - far from it. It is currently being perfomred under clinical trial conditions in the US at Cleveland Clinic as well as a hospital in Utah..  Dr. Lopez Corvala is training US surgeons at Hospital Angeles Tijuana (next session: June 5th 2010).  Surgeons with experinece in the procedure are calling it the new 'platinum standard'  because of the reduced risk of complicaitons associated with RNY and sleeve gastrectomy. Perhaps you are thinking of a different procedure than gastric sleeve plication.