Any docs do the Gastric Sleeve Plication?

Lifeski
on 4/23/10 11:12 am
My brother sent me a newspaper article from upstate NY about this procedure while I was still trying to get my VSG approved by insurance.  I think the thing that bothered me is if they use staples it would not be reversible and you would have the "blind" areas of stomach that could not be scoped kind of like an RNY.  Plus as someone else said there woud be no reduction of ghrelin.  

I took part in the Enteromedics VBLOC clinical trial for weight loss and after that I wanted to be sure if I did another procedure it was proven to work.  It is way too painful and frustrating to have something like that and not lose weight.
Teresa
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boernecheryl
on 4/23/10 12:08 pm - Boerne, TX
They are doing it in Cleveland at the bariatric clinic there, and I saw a youtube video of it narrated by a surgeon, and DARN if I can't find it again!!!  I, too, am exploring this option.  I wrote to the DR in Italy that does these with some questions, but haven't heard back.  If I do, I'll post the answers.
            
abejita
on 3/13/11 7:27 pm - dallas, TX
why are you exploring this option? If you had the vsg in 2010, there isn't enough stomach left to fold and suture.

mary



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on 4/23/10 12:12 pm
I actually went to the Cleveland clinic to participate in a clinical trial for that procedure and I was turned down because of my overeating. They said I would probably bust the sutures out. So if you have a overeating problem- which i thingk most obese people do, then i don't think that is for you.
MacMadame
on 4/23/10 12:44 pm - Northern, CA
They used to do a number of bariatric surgeries where they stapled off part of the stomach but left it there. All of them were failures at least in part because the stomach that wasn't' removed would fuse back into the smaller stomach. This actually was sometimes dangerous as food would get into the remnant part and rot. If that didn't happen, people would at least gain back their weight. This is why pretty much no one does those procedures any more.

It's also why I trust no new procedure where they staple off part of the stomach but don't remove it.

Personally, I wanted the part of my stomach that makes ghrelin to be gone. I really think the main reason that the VSG and DS are so successful is that there is no remnant hanging out making ghrelin and other hormones involved in hunger.

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rbb825
on 4/23/10 5:03 pm - Suffern, NY
I had RNY 18 months ago and haven't been hungry one day since.

 

MacMadame
on 4/24/10 12:24 am - Northern, CA
For some people, the restriction of the band or the pouch is enough to provide complete hunger control, but it's not for a lot of people and I wasn't willing to take the chance. I knew, if I had hunger issues, I wouldn't be able to keep my weight off as that was the reason I always gained my weight back in the past. I was massively hungry pre-op. I'd eat an enormous lunch and be ravenously hungry as little as half an hour later.

Plus, for a lot of people with RnY, the hunger comes back around the 2-3 year mark.

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rbb825
on 4/24/10 9:37 am - Suffern, NY
Our stomachs are so much smaller than yours, we can't eat that much.  I never would have lost my weight without the malabsorbtion and the tiny portions.  That is why they have so many different types of surgeries.

 

TeriJ
on 4/24/10 11:38 am
On April 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM Pacific Time, rbb825 wrote:
Our stomachs are so much smaller than yours, we can't eat that much.  I never would have lost my weight without the malabsorbtion and the tiny portions.  That is why they have so many different types of surgeries.
The pouch might be smaller, but without a stomach valve, things can go right through.  I seem to be able to eat more than people with a VSG.  And it seems to me that my malabsorption isn't too impressive either.

All things considered, I think I'd be doing better with a VSG.


rbb825
on 4/25/10 12:02 pm - Suffern, NY
What do you mean without a stomach valve? The pyloric value allows fluids to go through,not food.  If you are eating too much maybe you stretched your stoma.  I am 18 months out and can't eat more than 4 ounces at a time.

 

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