PLEASE PLEASE PRAY FOR ME AND MY FAMILY TODAY !!!!

 Thanks Again Julie for your help.   It is very heartbreaking having a child ( even if he is a adult ) going through this.   It just breaks my heart !!!  When I got him out of rehab in Oct. He wanted to meet his biological mom.    I know how to get in touch with his Mom's aunt.   Anyway he said the ONLY reason he wanted to meet her was to find out "why she" did drugs and made him want them.   I told him that only HE was responsible for his actions.   He has been raised in church his entire life and he knew doing drugs was not something that he should be doing.    I am praying daily for him to remain clean and sober with the drugs.   I know my food addiction is something that I personally have to work at on a daily basis.     I do know the importance of support groups since i am a OH Support Group leader and I do attend many support groups every month.    Thank you for your wisdom.

Hugs and blessings ~~~ Vivian

Viv, I am so sorry I haven't been there for you, but you were always in my thoughts and pryers! Hang tough,you can do this!
Luv ya
Meggie

Meggie....I would have never expected you to be here.   You have health issues that need to be resolved.   This month has been total hell for me !!!!  I am so sorry that I haven't come to see you nor even called you.   I have kept you in my thoughts and prayers though.   I love you so much and I am praying that what they have done have taken care of all the problems that you have.     I am keeping you in my prayers.   Love ya !!!


Hugs and blessings ~~~ Vivian

 Ahhhh  ((((VP))))  ..   Those kiddos of yours  ..  

   What is "suboxine" ..  ?  I'm a bit lost ..  Is it one of those "bridge" medications to help get over addiction to an illegal drug, like Methadone is for heroin abusers?  

   I don't know what good demanding to see the bottle would do, though, since if they wanted to fool you into thinking they are taking it they could just throw away or flush some of the pills each day ..   If it were me, I'd demand to see them actually take the pills  --  no other way to know for sure if they're being compliant.   

   Good luck, be brave and be tough if you have to  ..  Sometimes you have to be that way in order to show love ..  

 

 Thanks Paul and yes Suboxine is a bridge drug to make the affects of coming off the Oxycoten much less but still ( it is for heroin users too ) it is a drug to get addicted to also.   They are set to start being weined off it ( beginning anyway ) in Feb.    They are gone from my house along with 4.5 lbs of my weight ( I knew the stress had to be making me not loose ) LOL   I feel as though 100 lbs or more have been lifted off my shoulders.    Thank GOd for that !!!!


Hugs and blessings ~~ Vivian

Hey Viv,

Wish I had seen this yesterday.  Sorry about that.  Looks like you did the right thing though.  Being a parent of an addict I know how hard it is to have to tell them to get out.  I know you said they showed you the script but did you ever actually see the Medication?  I used to pray every day that Dan would hit his bottom, and get the help he needed then I would intervien and take him to detox or to counseling or whatever was needed.  When I finally said no more and stuck to it, and my parents said no more and stuck to  it he got help.  First though he had to live in homeless shelters, and on the streets in Boston.  I hated thinking about him in those places but it had to be done.  He got himself into a 90 day detox andthey helped him after the 90 days to find a place to live.  He is on Methadone, and has been for almost 4 years but for the last year he has been working on coming down off of it.  It is no something you can do overnight.  Once he is off of it he will go on the Suboxine.  Sorry this is no about me it is about you.  Please know you did the right thing as hard as it is to believe that. My prayers are with you and your family.  You know where I am if you want to chit chat!  Love you!

 Thanks Michelle.   They wanted to put him on Methadone also but they chose to go straight on Suboxine.    Hope your son has a good job....suboxine is extremely expensive......$6 up to about $10 per pill.    They take 2 a day each.    My son is basicly working a job to pay for meds.    They did show me the sheet that comes with the meds from the pharmacy with the 21st dated on it.    They said that they didn't want to show me the meds because instead of going to the pharmacy where the doctor told them to go and could get the meds for $6 they went to Walmart and paid $8 each.   Stupid to me but it is their money and not mine buying the pills.    My son complained all the time that it was so expensive.....I asked him wasn't his DRUG HABIT expensive too???   Drugs have controled his life too long.   I pray that he will stay straight and off the drugs.    They do need to lose their friends that they have done drugs with though.    I pray he does this.    Thanks so much for being there for me Michelle and sharing your story with me.    Life is tough sometimes and to see my son leave and not know where he is going is really tough.   BUT I had had enough !!!!   They appreciated nothing we did for them.    When it was affecting my weight and my life it was too much for me to take it anymore.     They broke every rule I had for them and it was time for them to go.    I pray that my son realizes that I love him so very much and only want the best for him.   He needs to loose this girlfriend though.   She is 7 yrs older than him  and has a criminal history.      She is the biggest loser of all times.   UGH can't stand her !!!!   She had to go especially after all she said to me yesterday !!!   If he won't stay here without her ( which is what he said to us ) then he  had to go too.   I pray that he will open his eyes before she destroys his life completely.  I said terrible things to her yesterday but I did not say anything that I did not mean !!!!    Thanks again and I love you !!!!


Hugs and blessings ~~~ Vivian

Viv,

I have to tell you the one really good thing about Massachusetts is that they have health insurance called Mass Health and it is for those that cant afford insurance.  They pay for the Methadone. Thank God.  When he goes to see my Mom and Dad down in Florida they(my parents) pay 50.00 a day for his one trip to the Methadone clinic every day.  I will pray that your son opens his eyes before it is to late.  One of the hardest things I had to do when I got out of Rehab was go and make new friends.  My old friends were all users.  I was lucky though because I had a friend that was in recovery and I went directly to her and she got me hooked up with other people in recovery.  Meetings help with that.  My son is a recluse and does not leave his little room except to go to the Methadone clinic and back, and maybe across the street to get a pizza or groceries.  He gets food stamps and his rent is payed for by the State.  It is pretty pathetic.  Before drugs he was out going, had tons of friends, a great sence of humor and a beautiful smile.  Now like I said he has trouble getting across the street.  He cant work.  Sorry...Iwill continue to pray for your son.  Lets hope he looses that looser of a girlfriend.  Love  you!

 Amen to that statement.   Not that the GF got him on drugs....but I am sure she got him on the hard stuff.    All I knew that he ever did was smoke pot.     But getting on the Oxy was the worse thing he could have done.   I am sure that his nervous system is damaged from drug use.    He shakes at times like a old person.   Breaks my heart to see him like this as I am sure it breaks your heart for your son's condition.    Thank God your son's meds are covered.    My son is working about 45 to 50 hrs per week waiting tables to buy his suboxine.     Sad but as I told him YOU made the decision to do the drugs.    He was NEVER exposed to anything like that in my home.      He does go to NA but not every day as it is suggested.   He does also have a sponsor and I pray that he is talking to that sponsor since all this has come about.    My son is extremely smart.....he is a good kid underneith......pray he looser that girl.  She is NO GOOD !!!!   


Hugs and blessings ~~~ Vivian

hey Viv,

Just real quick. There is a book that you, and everyone else that is dealing with an addict should read.  It is called Addict in the Family.   I would send you mine but I lent it to my Pastor and never got it back.  Guess he needed it more then I did.  Anyway if you can pick it up!  Love you!