Could you please be a little patient?

Paul you know that i have not responded to any of this that has to do with Charlene B... but i have to defend Sean and Yvonne on this post....

Sean did not write "shut up" on his post regarding Charlene..it was "drop it"..... the facts were we kept quiet until the charges were there.... WE (Sean, Yvonne and myself) were trying to protect those that were affected by this crime...we did not want charges to be dropped...and until Sarah posted anything we were trying to keep it quiet....

as far as certified support group leader - sean nor any other support group leader are paid by OH we actually put in more money than anyone knows about and time for that matter... and sean was asking for the matter to be dropped.... yes he is an official support group leader - there are now several from the texas board who are now becoming more active but i can say that sean has probably been one of the most active "official" certified support group leader on the texas board and has helped RYD both years but especially this year... no one knows how much Sean did for RYD this year... me with my health issues this year and a full time job not like when i was at continental airlines...ramon with his own things....yvonne being in dallas and doing the weight loss surgery channel... which she was not doing last year... 


YES Yvonne and myself asked Kris to remove or delete her post regarding anything that had to do with Charlene.... its not that we were didnt care about hers or anyones opinions it was we were trying to make sure the charges stuck......

NO ONE KNOWS what went on behind the scenes... NO ONE OTHER THAN THOSE AFFECTED...yes TMB was affected but the ones who's cards were stolen were the ones who were really affected....

OK I know i am going to strike a major nerve here.... but i am bringing up the past - when Brandi did the scam she did - did people jump to bring charges up against her?? did people ask for her to be banned from OH??? i know she did not steal credit cards from wallets at an event... but those affected by her actually were there to help her...and she was in several peoples houses.....and believe me she stole more than what was charged on those credit cards....Charlene had been in my house for years... coming to support groups... i am in no way defending her...believe me until today did i respond to her private message... she stole from two people that i know.... yes Tracey is in Dallas and I do not know her that well but I know her and Sarah is in my support group (Sean's now)...and had been going to the Pasadena group since before her surgery..... so of course i feel bad....

I can not believe that you would even post to Yvonne about -

"If my posting this means that there is no longer a preference to re-shoot the lost tape of my un-broadcast WLS Journeys segment, I understand and respect that, but when it is all said and done, saying what needs to be said ranks higher on my 'to do' list for this incarnation."

You should know Yvonne better than that... give her some credit here.... she would not do that to something she believes in... I wish you and everyone else that has posted to this knew exactly how much Yvonne has worked with the detective....

COME ON PEOPLE GIVE YVONNE A BREAK HERE.... THIS HAS ONLY CAUSED MORE AND MORE FIGHTING AMONG THE TEXAS BOARD....and there have been so many PMs from newbies leaving the boards.... yes two people that we love and respect were hurt and the trust has been broken....but like someone said on another thread we are adults and do we blame walmart if our purse is stolen from our shopping cart.... NO...

Sorry Paul all of this is on a post to you - you know i respect you and have never said anything other than how knowledgeable i thought you are... you know that you and i have emailed even before you had surgery.... this is not just to you but to all those that are giving Yvonne such a hard time...

of course there is so much more i want to address but going to leave it alone.... i will answer the pm's that i have gotten regarding this whole situtaion....

believe me there are several old timers who have been around a long time who have given so much of their time and love for the people going through this journey give them some respect when they ask for something....no one knows all the reasons why at the time but there is usually a great reason behind it.....

Paul -

I am not gonna post a lot about this as I do not owe an explanation to you.  I will say this, I NEVER said or implied 'SHUT UP' to anyone.  I did however say 'DROP IT'.  Now, if there is a definition that shows drop it means shut up, please let me know. 

Debra brought up those issues about me being a support group leader because you did.  I have put in just as much, maybe more, time than anyone else here to be that support group leader and be there for people; mainly off the board.

I hate to say that what you 'recall' and the reality are not the same.  Again, I never told anyone to shut up, just to drop it.  And for you to comment about 'are we cool' is way outta line because it had nothing at all to do with you.

There has been alot of talk about knowing the story behind the story before you speak out of turn.  I'll have to say the same sentiment applies to some of what was posted here.

I almost didn't respond to this at all.  I said my piece last fall, and have left it at that ever since, but Brandi's name has been brought up too many times in the past couple weeks for me to just continue to let it rest. I haven't defended her actions much because she made her own choices and has to deal with her own consequences.  As her friend though, I do have to defend when her actions are mis-characterized.

Brandi never asked me for money.  If she asked anyone else, I know nothing about it.  I asked for money for her kids on her behalf, and without her knowledge.  I intentionlly did not tell her that I was asking for money for her, until after I had done it.  When the truth about her health came out, her financial situation was exactly as it had been depicted (or worse), even if her health was not.  As I've said to many...if she's a scammer, she's NOT very good at it (sorry, had to edit...left out a very important word here...NOT very good at it).  Also, ALL of the money that was collected for her kids was spent BY ME, on her KIDS, except for a tiny bit that was returned to the donors at their request. None of it was ever given directly to her.  If anyone would like to press charges, feel free to bring them against me, as I'm the one who asked for and received money.

Also, feel free to have her banned from OH, she has never posted here since then anyway, and surely doesn't miss any of this.

If you still call it a scam, so be it.  Personally I never felt scammed for money, regardless of her other misdeeds.

loralea,

Thank you for speaking up and pointing out, hopefully once and for all, that Brandi and Charlene's situation are totally different.  My gosh, how anyone can relate the two is beyond me.  Like Paul says, apples and oranges. I can regain trust in one because what she did was not illegal or life threatening to my peeps.  The other is a menace and obviously has no remorse.

First off let me make this PERFECTLY CLEAR...NONE of this has to do with Charlene C from Dallas, as the name Charlene has come up several times again today.  The Charlene in question lives in the Houston area, not the DFW area.

Personally I am very offended when anyone from this board tells another what they can and can not (or should or should not) talk about.  I awoke this morning to find TWO hateful emails in my inbox from this woman that I THOUGHT we had gotten rid of.  Because they were posted publically, I felt the need to respond.  Whether or not I know the whole story doesn't matter,  I know THREE people whose lives have been affected negatively by this woman.  None of them has asked me not to say anything, in fact the opposite has happened.  I have been thanked for my support.

So like Gina,  I believe in freedom of speech and if those DIRECTLY involved would like me to delete my post, please PM me and I'll be happy to do so.

Yvonne, you know I love you and I appreciate your gentle spirit but unfortunately I can't standby and watch people hurt those I love.

I must feel worse than I thought. I'm not making any sense.  I was glad you responded this morning!!  I was upset with everyone that was so mad at being asked to pull posts previously (when I begged for them to please wait until it was resolved) and the fact that Charlene B was posting so freely.  I was asking for everyone to please be patient and hopefully we could get the offensive material moved to a more appropriate place. The "whole story" thing was about the reasons we were asking not to break the story yet, in the beginning.  I hope I'll get the chance to explain it some time.  I have nothing to say about what anyone says to or about Charlene B.  I'm so sorry this has gotten so confusing.  I love you too sweetie and thanks for appreciating my gentle spirit....I appreciate your outspoken spirit just as much...
much love, Y

...haven't even read this thread....but I figure I know what it is about..... just wanted to tell you ...we love ya girl!!! You can only do so much.....