Debra Update
Here is the latest. She went to the Dr again today to have her neuro stuff looked at. There is a possibility that there is a vertebrae that is causing the pain. That, per the Dr would not effect the memory issue.
The Dr was asked about the memory issue and was drilled pretty hard. He stated that the lack of B vitamins can and will cause neuro damage if the levels are low for a long period of time. Also that low B levels can even cause PERMANENT neurological damages. I have a friend that has a friend that did not take his B vitamins and now is in an assisted living facility - NO JOKE!!! To add insult to injury, the Dr stated that ALCOHOL drains the body of the needed B vitamins. No one is saying DON'T drink alcohol, but if you are, take more b vitamins.
This is not a joke. This is serious stuff here. There is no way to take to much (from what my Dr has said) as the excess gets flushed out in your urine.
YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR VITAMINS...................I DONT CARE WHAT SURGERY YOU HAD, HOW FAR OUT YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!!
Please please please keep Debra in your prayers. She needs that right now. And take your vitamins......
OH Certified Support Group Leader
Pasadena Support Group 2nd Monday at 6:30pm
Katy Krew Support Group 4th Monday at 6:30pm
'This is my glock, There are many like it, but this one is MINE.' R Lee Ermey
Frank talk about the DS / "All I ever wanted to be was thin, like that Rolling Stones dude ... "
HW/461 LW/251 GW/189 CW/274 (yep, a DS semi-failure - it happens :-( )
it is very frustrating for me to rely on others to take care of me.... or drive me around i am not driving right now either.... and that is the tough part its like something has been taken away from me....
227/205/135 at goal
1st Surgery/Revision/Today
8/98 - 8/04 - today
Support Group Leader
Co- Founder www.rydobesity.com
One thing that puzzles (and frankly worries) me about your memory problem is that it seems, IIRC, that it came on rather suddenly .. I would think that if it was a supplement-related deficiency it would instead be a gradual onset, over time, from what I've read about supplement-deficiency-related neurological damage on OH with other members before . You might want to have a second set of MRI and CT scans done (and a PET-scan, if possible) for a "second opinion", to rule out a stroke as much as possible ..
Another thing you might consider doing, if your ins. will pay for it, is to have a full set of just about every possible WLS-related blood level checked, through a referral from your doc (or using U.S. Labs online to order it through them yourself) .. I can forward you my Excel Spreadsheet that I "inherited" from another WLSer almost 3 years ago that I use to track my labs. I know it was originally set up by a DS patient, but it includes a lot of RNY-type checks by overlap. It presently has accumulated almost 90 different kinds of blood tests on it, with the normal ranges for each shown off to the side. You might want to consider having almost all of those tests run (it will require a lot of blood samples, though! ) .. That might finally show what it is you are deficient in, if that is in fact the culprit ..
btw, if you can get your results back within the next 3 weeks, Vitalady will be in Dallas for the annual A.S.M.B.S. conference here .. Maybe she will sit down and go over the results with you to see what she thinks ..
Keeping you in my prayers .
Frank talk about the DS / "All I ever wanted to be was thin, like that Rolling Stones dude ... "
HW/461 LW/251 GW/189 CW/274 (yep, a DS semi-failure - it happens :-( )
i have another iron infusion next week and blood work and believe me i probably get about 10 tubes of blood taken... if not more...
the hematologist has the list of blood work that rny people need and the levels....
believe me this was not all of the sudden.... i havent taken vitamins in a long time.... and now its catching up with me.... or it has caught up with me...
believe me i have had mri with dye and cat scans and injections in the heart with dye to make sure it wasnt a tear in theheart... now the doctor thinks it might be c6 & c7 disc in my neck.... having another test next week where they will inject more dye.... to check the neck.... believe me the neurologist doesnt want to believe its a vitamin defiency...... so he said after the injections he is going to test my bloodwork again....
i hope all this makes sense.... my thoughts are scattered right now....having some pain right now....
227/205/135 at goal
1st Surgery/Revision/Today
8/98 - 8/04 - today
Support Group Leader
Co- Founder www.rydobesity.com
It's for life, not just while losing weight. We'll NEVER absorb everything we need from food, our insides are NOT like the normal human being (specific to malabsorption surgeries).
PLEASE everyone take your vitamins, I don't want to have to hear someone I love dearly is suffering because of non-compliance.
I'm continuing to keep Debra in my thoughts and prayers and as I stated to her before if she needs anything that I can help with from afar don't hesitate to call me.
Proximal RNY Lap - 02/21/05
9 years committed ~ 100% EWL and Maintaining
www.dazzlinglashesandbeyond.com
I agree, we can not stress enough to get these vitamins in. I know she appreciates the prayers...
OH Certified Support Group Leader
Pasadena Support Group 2nd Monday at 6:30pm
Katy Krew Support Group 4th Monday at 6:30pm
'This is my glock, There are many like it, but this one is MINE.' R Lee Ermey
~Stephanie~
RNY revision from lapband 7/30/07...TT/BL 10/9/08 and at GOAL
Oh and YES get that B-12 number UP, UP, UP. How much are you adding a day......I suggest 2000 mcg.
Protein: 7's
Albumin: 4's
Pre-Albumin: 20-30's
Iron: 80-100
Ferritin: 200-300
HGB: 12+
HCT: 36+
Vit A: 60- 80
Vit D: 80-12 0
Calcium: 9.0-9.4
PTH: 20-40
Vit B1: Mid to top of range
Vit B6: Mid to top of range
Magnesium: Mid range (but also go by if we have leg/foot cramping)
Zinc: Mid range
Vit B12: 1000 +
Folate: Top of range
AST (sgot): Below 40 A
LT (sgpt): Below 40
We usually want to "meet or beat" pre-op levels. In some cases, higher is better, and in other cases (Cholesterol, PTH for example), lower is better. The only things *I* don't mind being on the high end of out of range are Ferritin and B12. But that applies to ME. These are the levels I'm shooting for, working on tweaking right now. Some of these are HIGHER than others maybe comfortable with.
Proximal RNY Lap - 02/21/05
9 years committed ~ 100% EWL and Maintaining
www.dazzlinglashesandbeyond.com