Frustrated

Nsg4Him
on 2/18/09 4:11 am, edited 2/18/09 4:15 am - Sevierville, TN
Some people recommended that because I continue to struggle with grazing and I am apparently the only WLS patient who does that I need to seek counseling.  I had already thought about that, but with a $2500 copay while I am unemployed that seemed like something out of my reach.  So someone else recommended a local counseling service here in town that works on a sliding scale.  So, I called them.  Well, apparently, they are only on a sliding scale if either you are on Medicare, TNCare, or no one in your house is employed.  Seems like if you are attempting to make something of yourself or just hitting a bad patch, there is no help for you.  And, get this, their hourly rates are 150% of the rates of other therapists in the area!  The other thing that has frustrated me is that no one that I have called so far deals with food addictions.  Their ads will say they deal with eating disorders but when I call they are talking about anorexia and bulemia.  The only one I have found so far is part of the surgical group in west Knoxville and only sees the patients for that group.  I haven't given up but this is probably something that will have to be put on hold until I can go back to work and even then, if I can find someone in the area that can handle it.  It is so surprising to me, in Nashville or Memphis, this would be no big deal to find a therapist who has special training in food addictions.


Marilyn
                      Smoky Mountain Obesity and WLS Support Group 
                    1/17 6:30 LeConte Medical Center              

betsyp
on 2/18/09 5:28 am - knoxville, TN
Marilyn,
I am so sorry you are frustrated.
I am praying for you!
Big Hug!!
Betsy
Betsy
RNY 10.09.07
Bob L.
on 2/18/09 6:13 am - Clarksville, TN
Marilyn I have no insight but I know alot of Universities offer this type of service at a greatly reduced rate. I wonder if UT has any kind of program? I have a few calls out and if I can find a no cost or low cost program in your area I'll pm you. I know your not the only one with eating issues if so WLS would be 100% successful! Just by not giving up and constantly recognizing your issues will eventually make you successful. C'ya Bob

Truly Trina
on 2/18/09 2:43 pm - Nashville, TN

Hi Marilyn,



I do understand your frustrations.



Hey sweetie, you know you have already assessed your own situation for sometime now. You have graciously shared your struggles with addiction to the group, I even remember a while back when you were incorporating the twelve step recovery program into your food issues and I thought that was really cool. I had to make my assessments in my life too. Man, that task is not easy nor is it pretty.



It is not surprising to me that there is not an over abundance of help specializing in "food addiction." The problem with food addiction is that the very thing we abuse or use to medicate ourselves with (food) is the very thing we need and have to have to survive. Food is essential for us, without food the body will die. That is not the case for an alcoholic. The body can live without whiskey or Vodka. That is not the case for a drug addict. The body can live without heroin or cocaine. So as you can see the treatment for food addiction has to be treated in a different way.



I have posted in the past that I have had some wild experiences with therapy sessions. Talk about frustrating. One of my favorites is having a session with a "counselor" at a very popular psychological clinic here in Nashville. The counselor assigned to me was as morbidly obese as I was. I remember sitting there being close to 300 pounds, I was hurting both physically and emotionally and this person obviously was struggling as much as I was. Needless to say that was $250 bucks down the drain. I think if a person is going to hang a shingle, charge an arm and a leg for their expertise services and claim to be a professional then they should at least be able to get their own house in order before they try to start repairing and cleaning someone else's house.



I think we should be able to make a list of perspective counselors. Once we narrow that list down to a few, I think we should have the prospective counselor make an appointment with us. Once we have them fill out an application, provide us with a list of credentials and references, we then have a personal interview to see if they are a perfect fit for us. We won't even charge them for the interview time....Yep, I think that sounds like a great idea....

As you pursue your quest for professional food addiction counseling don't overlook your ability to help yourself. You have such a determination. Couple that with your professional medical background and I just know you will be able to succeed and heal emotionally and physically. I believe in you. Addiction affects our self esteem. Give yourself credit for all your strengths..Stand your ground and speak up for what you feel is right....



One of the things that I feel has truly helped me is a workbook I purchased on "Boundaries. One of the chapters elaborated on how easy it is to recognize someone who has misplaced their power, they will frequently say things like "He made me feel so incompetent" or "She made me feel so stupid." Elenor Roosevelt said it best "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission."

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Nsg4Him
on 2/18/09 7:45 pm - Sevierville, TN
Trina,
I have read the book "Boundaries" but haven't seen the workbook.  I am going to Knoxville today for a orthopaedic appointment so I think I will try to go by Borders to see if I can find it.
Thank You So Much For Thinking Of Me!


Marilyn
                      Smoky Mountain Obesity and WLS Support Group 
                    1/17 6:30 LeConte Medical Center              

Truly Trina
on 2/18/09 2:47 pm - Nashville, TN
Hi Betsy,



Wow, your new avatar looks amazing...  You look fantastic...   hope you are doing well.....

   Trinafat05-19-06-1.jpg 100 x 75 picture by trina_davis_photoTrinaandBobbieJuly2008-1-2-1-1.jpg 63 x 100 picture by trina_davis_photo*Member of Student Dietetics*  *Certified support group leader Obesity Help*  Patient Rep support group moderator Vanderbilt Center Surgical Weight Loss
Start weight 277    Reached my goal weight 115


 



 

betsyp
on 2/21/09 11:17 am - knoxville, TN
Thank you so much!! You have always been so encouraging to me! I hope to meet you in person one day!
Take care!
Betsy
Betsy
RNY 10.09.07
Nsg4Him
on 2/18/09 8:56 pm - Sevierville, TN
Hi Betsy,
Thanx for the prayers!
I 'll see you at support group tonight!
Thank you friend


Marilyn
                      Smoky Mountain Obesity and WLS Support Group 
                    1/17 6:30 LeConte Medical Center              

(deactivated member)
on 2/18/09 6:02 am - Sevierville, TN
Marilyn,
I'm really sorry this didnt work out for you. I have TennCare so I didn't know all the things that were necessary for the sliding scale. My therapist isn't a specialist in eating disorders but she does help me understand why I have always turned to food. It looks like you will be on your own for a while, Marilyn, but I know you will be okay because you will never give up. I really wish I had something else to suggest. I'm a long way from where you are in your journey, but I would be happy to get together with you any time just to talk about anything you want. Please, call me anytime. 286-9475.

Blessings,
Karen
melsreturn
on 2/18/09 8:05 am - Madison, TN

Marilyn, I hope you don't think you are the only one who struggles.  We all DO whether we want to admit it or not...  I know you are frustrated.  And I also know that you have determination.  You have not given up and you are certainly not defeated.  Those are the traits of someone who can make it!

I am wondering, do you attend a church?  Does your church minister counsel with people?  Some ministers are counselors/therapists.  You might be able to contact the largest church in your area as they are usually the ones who can afford to pay the salaries of such individuals.  Also, I know in our area there is a church that has an addictions recovery program and its not just for alcohol or drugs.  I've seen other churches while traveling who advertise this program on signs in front of their buildings.

 

Counseling is very expensive...  but don't give up.  Keep beating on every door that you can until you find someone who is willing to see you, or at least refer you to someone who can.  



 

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