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sweetpotato1959
on 7/26/21 9:50 pm, edited 7/26/21 2:51 pm
Topic: RE: Second Chance after RNY over 10 years ago. -- Anyone in this boat?

I'm going to throw out a couple ideas for you to research/try while you are in this "waiting room." Neither requires a specific diet so you would be able to maintain the portions you think are working for you.

The good thing is neither will cost you anything except dedication to them. each can be as flexible as YOU need it to be.

The first is a tip given to me 25 years ago-will be on Oct 31st-, by my nutritionist/ counselor after my surgery.

(BTW my diet is 90Gm protein minimum, Carbs daily standard goal no more than 50, set w/surgery)

Nutritionist/lifestyle coach said...Do a brief exercise when you get out of bed (to boost your metabolism-for the day he suggested 15-20 min), one after mid day , and another before /at bedtime (to boost metabolism and burn more calories during part of sleep cycle)..doing your total exercise amount in 1/3 amounts each time.

I was doing the prescribed amount of exercise but this gave me the boost i needed.-maybe it will help you . I began adding isometrics to my night routine..In isometrics one tenses the muscles in sets, slowly holds for a count off 3 or 5... then slowly releases and repeats x 5...I begin at feet and do feet and ankles then calves, then upper thighs.. all way to neck and head. i do mine on the bed.and am sleepy and tired after...so assist me into sleep.I now have a series of back strengthening exercises i do to maintain alignment with them all of them together take 7-8 minutes.

The second thing you might try investigating is the cycle of your eating. There is a method of eating all food consumed in a short span of time..it is SAID to increase fat burning.and boost stem cell production.. There are several doctors have you tube video's on it. Look up" Intermittent fasting for beginners..What you need to know." Each Doctor has a slightly different take, so check out a couple of them... . i would suggest to watch what one of the Doctors/clinics has to say on the subject-with their methodology..and then choose one that has an idea how to best implement for your schedule and lifestyle/ for trying..

I have not been intentionally doing it but my husband has had good loss with it 3x a week.He generally fasts 14-18 hours and just has a cup of coffee and ice or lemon water/unsweetened. until time to break his fast. We eat early about 5p.. so by 6am is well into the 13th hour.

My Brother uses this method and has had some success with it. he has an impossible diet. foods he is allowed to eat on one part of his Rx'd diet he can not have on the other one.. they are total opposites. he would qualify for ice water only if he maintained both diets.. he and his wife eat from 11am - 5 pm.

Hang in there and keep working and modifying your plan to what you find works for you..Know that there is an answer to your problem. Keep on Keeping on! Each of us / each body responds different. You will find what works for YOU with diligence.

Denise
White Dove
on 7/26/21 5:40 pm, edited 7/26/21 10:41 am - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: Revision Result

RNY to Switch is a very complicated operation and I cannot recall anyone on this board who had it, except one person who passed away shortly after the surgery. We never knew if his death was surgery related. I spoke to a surgeon in Spain who did the RNY to DS and he told me that I would not have done any better with DS than I did with RNY.

There are only a few surgeons in the world who do that conversion. Most people lose about 100 pounds with RNY, then gain back twenty during year three. About 50% have gained back 50 by year 5. As time goes on, regain is higher. Anything that tightens the pouch, sleeve, or stoma can be stretched out again if you eat too much at one time. Keeping from overeating will be for life. Losing more than the 20 pounds from the liquid diet pre and post conversion will involve less calories and more exercise.

You will probably get more responses if you start a new tread, as many people don't look at old ones.

There is a person who posts on the DS tread who I believe was a revision from RNY to DS

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Leslie2016
on 7/26/21 3:48 pm
Topic: RE: Revision Result

Hi, Is that 20 pounds even with an RNY to Switch revision? Im 16 years out from RNY, lost 100, bounced back 10, 10 from meopause and now the pandemic has gifted me 40 more. Ugh!! I see my surgeon tomorrow and will post what he says.

Donna W.
on 7/24/21 1:16 pm - Spring, TX
Topic: RE: Second Chance after RNY over 10 years ago. -- Anyone in this boat?

Hi! I had my original RNY is May 2007. I had the Overstitch procedure done 2 weeks ago. starting weight was 325lb. I lost 125lbs in my first five months. Went on to slowly lose a bit more and stalled. Maintained this for years but had a host of issues and surgeries. Then about 5 years ago the weight started creeping up. I became to have a ton of abdominal symptoms. Pain,boating, intense sharp pain. Nausea all the time. I have been on Zofran and Levsin (for intestinal cramping) in addition to being diagnosed with Celiacs Disease, malabsorption and then IBS. Things continued to get worse. Went to my surgeon in April. He recommended that I see a gastroenterologist that also performs the Overstitch procedure so that in addition to his finding out what is wrong, I could be evaluated for the procedure. Let's just say I am so glad I went. My friend that had RNY in 2006 also went with me. So we determined he would do an upper go to check out what was going on. Hers was straight forward. She had stretch out. Her pouch so he made the stomach opening 8mm and brought the pouch size down to original size post RNY.

for me though not so easy. Turns out I had a gastric diverticula on my staple line near my stoma. It was a pouch or as he called it a hump. So that was feeling with food that wood get stuck. Produce gasses causing the bloating and so much pain. Then her sutured that closed and reduced my stomach and pouch from the 7mm in length back to 2 mm. So I had a bit more pain and adjustment than my friend. But I have to say. I fell so much better!!! And I have lost 15lbs. I lost 16 lbs after RNY at 2 weeks.

the diet after is rough 2 weeks clear liquids and 4 weeks full liquids (then 4 of purée and 4 sifts) but I feel so much better. I am so glad that I went and now feel confident in loosing the weight. Now on full liquids I can have regular protein shakes instead of just protein water so it's a little easier to take. But I look forward to losing the weight regain and keeping it off this time.

Donna

White Dove
on 7/20/21 5:39 am - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: Had my Apollo Overstitch revision.....

I hope you will continue to post and share your results on this board. We have hundreds of posts from people who had the procedure, but never have I seen a follow up post which tells what happened after newness of the procedure wore off.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

SuSu2
on 7/18/21 6:17 pm
Topic: RE: Had my Apollo Overstitch revision.....

I just had the Apollo procedure and am optimistic. I had RNY surgery in 2003 - 18 years ago. I haven't felt any restriction for a long time. Well, when Dr. did endoscopy, he told me my pouch is still fine but my stoma had stretched to 35mm!

I am just 4 days out from the procedure and have progressed from clear liquids to full liquids (translate - protein drinks). And I definitely feel it. I am struggling to get the protein and water requirements in.

So, I am hopeful!

SuSu2
on 7/18/21 6:11 pm
Topic: RE: Had my Apollo Overstitch revision.....

Chris Thompson is just wonderful!

White Dove
on 7/15/21 3:50 pm, edited 7/15/21 8:50 am - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: Revision Result

I have been on this forum since 2003. I can recall one person *****vised to RNY and is at about normal BMI. She works very hard at diet and exercise. The weight loss is not from the revision, although that did help her GERD.

The usual 20 pound of revision weight loss is from the pre-op liquid diet and is typical of any revision. Most regain that once they heal from the surgery and go back to their normal eating. After weight loss surgery there is bounceback regain in year three of approximately 20 pounds. By year five about 50% of people have regained about 40 to 50 pounds. By year ten, regain is even higher. After the effect of surgery wears off, the only way to maintain weight loss is fewer calories in and more calories burned.

The 100 pound or more weight loss that follows the initial surgery is a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence. It does not happen with revisions.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

KathyDallas11
on 7/14/21 7:02 am
Topic: Revision Result

I am a 51 year old professional. I had wls August 2014 (sleeve). My lowest wieght was 180. My highest wieght was 291. (Dang I was definitely a Big girl).Currently , I am 235 with a BMI 40.30.

I am moving forward towards revision sugery. However, I confused about only lossing 20 pounds postoperative. Is there any female on this form who had achieved a nomal BMI after revision?

KathyDallas11
on 7/14/21 6:59 am
Topic: Revision Result

I am a 51 year old professional. I had wls August 2014 (sleeve). My lowest wieght was 180. My highest wieght was 291. (Dang I was definitely a Big girl).Currently , I am 235 with a BMI 40.30.

I am moving forward towards revision sugery. However, I confused about only lossing 20 pounds postoperative. Is there any female on this form who had achieved a nomal BMI after revision?

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