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Oh man that's so frustrating! I think the feeling is different between the surgeries. So with the sleeve we feel super super full and then with the bypass you might not get that same exact feeling due to the way your "new" stomach is. From what I understand with out the valve on the bottom of the stomach you don't achieve the same stop full feeling if that makes sense.
I can attest to the grazing! I had lap band in 2010. It was defective. It sprung a leak, and the clip came off the port. In 2015 I revised to sleeve (against my doctor's recommendations of RNY.) Fast forward....I have had reflux since waking up from that surgery, and it is getting worse. I have finally started the process of going to RNY. It is going to be a long one due to safety reasons of other health issues. I am seeing a hematologist for a blood clotting disorder that is genetic. All of this stuff has come about since I hit 48 years old. I am now 52. We thought we had it under control, and I was taking eliquis. I was still recommended to get the covid vaccine and was told the eliquis would keep me safe. I got the moderna vaccine and within 1 week of the 2nd shot had blood clots in my popliteal and femoral veins of my right leg. I ended up on 120mg lovenox for 2 weeks and am now on warfarin. My surgeon says they deal with hypercoagulation every day, and there is absolutely no reason to delay moving forward, and I can be peaceful and confident about this decision, and I am. BUT the grazing is REAL!!! I look forward to meeting with the nutritionist to get tips to stop this! lol.
There is no revision surgery that will result in more than about a 20 pound loss. And that is from fasting before surgery and not able to eat for a while after. When you had your first weight loss surgery, you went from a stomach that held at least as much as a 2-liter bottle of soda and had it reduced to hold about the amount that the bottle cap on the soda bottle would hold.
Even with that tiny stomach you learn how to eat enough food to gain weight again. Usually by eating small amounts of high calorie foods all day long. The only way to lose weight after the two year surgery honeymoon period is to eat low calories. Small meals with little or no rice, sugar, pasta, potatoes, corn, cereal, flour, fruit or other high carb foods.
You need to eat meat and vegetables and keep meals to around 1200 calories a day. Also add exercise and drink a lot of water. It is possible to do that, but it is not easy and there is no magic surgery or shortcut.
Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
I had a RNY gastric by pass in 2001. I lost about 170 lbs. In 2011 I had the rose procedure. A total waste of money. I am wondering if anyone else had a gastric by pass years ago and if they had any additional surgeries. I have gained a lot of weight back and would like some information. Thank you
That would be terrible. They should be able to get it fixed so you can eat normal foods again. Let us know how things go.
Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
I had RnY in 2006, and it was successful. 3 yrs ago I began having problems tolerating solid foods, and make reflux, and pain. Finally, in May I went yo get it checked out and between then and now, I have had 6 EGD's, a stent placed and then removed , but that was even unsuccessful bc I have a severe stricture where they connected my pouch to my bowels. I went to a bariatric surgeon, and he wasn't the most promising! He said its a difficult procedure, and more risky than the 1st bc I dont have much left to work with. I went ahead and scheduled the procedure, but Man, I don't know. Could I live off soft, puréed for the rest of my life (bc thats all I can tolerate) and when it starts hurting, it hurts bad! Anybody care to share your revision experience, tia
Sadly the 20-30 pound weight loss is common with revision and mostly due to the pre-op liquid diet and not being able to eat much until you have completely healed from the surgery.
One theory is that when we first have weight loss surgery our stomach is at least able to hold the amount of a two-liter bottle of soda. Some have a much larger capacity. So that big stomach is reduced to a tiny stomach not a lot bigger than a grape. This is a drastic change in the amount of food that we can consume. We lose weight very rapidly.
After a few years we learn how to eat enough calories so that we gain weight even with our tiny stomach. After a revision we might have a stomach that holds four ounces instead of six, but that is not much difference. The common channel shortening seems like it should make a big difference. But weight loss seems to never be like after a virgin surgery.
Carrie Wilson is a singer who had weight loss surgery about 30 years ago. She lost a lot of weight and regained. Then had a lapband placed over her bypass and lost 30 pounds with the revision, strict diet, and exercise program. I had surgery in 2007 and have to follow a diet or I will regain. The first 30 months was quick and easy, after that I started to regain and went back to Weigh****chers. I fight regain because I know what happens if I don't.
I am completely opposed to protein shakes. I feel they make it too easy to get calories in and try to concentrate on lean dense protein. Beef, pork, fish, and poultry for most of my food. Some vegetables, a very tiny amount of fruit (a one-size serving of applesauce lasts me for three servings). I exercise and drink a lot of water. I still end up with around 1400 calories a day. I weigh myself everyday and hold myself accountable for anything I eat.
When I have weight to lose I am happy to lose a pound a week. I do hope you come back and let us know how you are doing and what your doctor tells you. Wishing you the best.
Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
Hello, I have known a few that had revisions from the sleeveto rny but honestly have never heard of an rny to a sleeve.
I don't believe that's a possible surgery as a majority of your stomach has already been removed to just leave you with a pouch.
Keep well,
Annette
Starting weight: 334 lbs.Starting opti weight: 323 lbs, Surgery weight 303 lbs.Surgery-May 21st, 2013 with Dr Hagen at HRRH Goal weight 165 lbs reached at 13 months. Current weight 156 lbs
When we have our first weight loss surgery, we go from a stomach that can hold at least as much as a 2-liter bottle of soda. That big stomach is reduced down to not much more than the bottle cap on the 2-liter bottle. We get full very quickly and lose very quickly.
But as the years go by, we manage to eat enough calories to gain weight even with a very reduced stomach. The revision might have taken you from a eight ounce stomach down to a four ounce stomach, but that is a a very little difference. So there is no drastic change in the amount of food that it takes to fill up.
Most people graze during the day, eat high calorie foods in small amounts, drink with their food, and lose very little after revision. The only way to lose weight now is to count calories and burn calories. It takes 10 calories per day to maintain one pound. If I want to stay at my goal of 136, I aim for 1360 calories a day. If I start eating 160 calories a day, I gain back up to 160. it is easy to and just an extra slice of bread or a few cookies will send my scale soaring up.
Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
Had Lap RNY Dec 2004. Starting weight 411 lbs. By Dec 2006, I'd lost down to 250 lbs. Weight slowly increased over the years for various reasons and fluctuated between 280-300 lbs, but after starting menopause 1st part of 2020 & contracting covid-19 in Oct 2020, my weight started and kept ballooning, so I decided in Jul 2021 to have revision surgery. I was told I would have common channel shortening, but was ill-informed on the actual procedure, so I wasn't fully aware at all of its effectiveness or lack thereof. Needless to say...fast forward to Dec 2, 2021 (pre-op appt), I now weighed 340 lbs! Lost 10 lbs during my 2 week pre-op diet. Had common channel shortening surgery & gallbladder removal on Dec 22nd. I'm 24 days post op and I've only lost 16-17 lbs and that's because I'm only consuming very little. 1-2 protein shakes/day, 1 scrambled egg, a few tbsp of tuna, salmon, or turkey, 1/2 pack instant oatmeal, baked fish, low fat yogurt, protein water, and chicken broth for the most part is what my diet has consisted of. Most days, I'm struggling with drinking and eating much at all, so my daily caloric intake at this point MIGHT be 500 calories, but probably less. Granted, because I've been in a good amount of pain post-op, I've done very little to no exercise since. Still...considering the small amount of liquids/foods I'm consuming, I would've thought the weight loss would be more significant. Anyone have any thoughts, knowledge, advice or experience in this situation? My doctor is now saying revision weight loss will be way less than the original bypass, but I'm now wondering if this procedure is even effective to get me out of the 300's to the low 200's?? The weight loss I've experienced so far, I honestly feel as though I did it on my own without help of the common channel shortening! Clearly I have a LOT of weight to lose, so why do a procedure on a 340 lb individual that may possibly only result in 20-30 lb weight loss? I will be asking these questions at my next appointment in 2 weeks, but ANY response will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance...
