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on 11/8/15 1:46 pm, edited 11/15/15 1:47 pm

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H.A.L.A B.
on 11/8/15 6:16 pm, edited 11/8/15 7:24 pm

Nope. Can't imagine my life without meat or eggs. 

It I gave up milk stuff like cheese or yogurt or whey .. Due to allergies... 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

(deactivated member)
on 11/8/15 11:32 pm
White Dove
on 11/8/15 6:24 pm - Warren, OH

There is very little likelihood of success with RNY without meat, milk, cheese and eggs.  Your body needs the protein and you cannot and should not be able to eat enough vegetables to get it in. 

 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

(deactivated member)
on 11/8/15 11:59 pm
H.A.L.A B.
on 11/9/15 9:49 am

I am allergic to milk products and soy. So I do drink vegan protein shakes, if I want a shake.. but beside that - most vegan food is so high in carbs - and my super MO body was very effective in storing any carbs.  Plus carbs = cravings... Even now - long term post op - I need to limit carbs to maintain my weight loss... 

even natural carbs - fruits and veggies - contain too much carbs...and not enough of proteins... 

you may be a special one... but I seen too many MO or just obese vegans... 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

(deactivated member)
on 11/11/15 6:33 pm
poet_kelly
on 11/11/15 3:11 am - OH

That's not true at all.  In fact, a well-known bariatric surgeon, Dr. Garth Davis, recommends a vegan diet for his patients.

I do eat some dairy products, but not meat and no eggs, and not a lot of dairy.  I get at least 60 grams of protein a day, and my protein and albumin levels are always good when I have labs done.  And I am six years post op and only five lbs above my goal weight, so I think that is pretty successful.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Grim_Traveller
on 11/11/15 5:57 am
RNY on 08/21/12

Kelly! It's good to see you here! You've been missed.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

White Dove
on 11/11/15 5:59 am - Warren, OH

Kelly, you are the only person I have ever seen on these boards who is successful with no meat and no eggs and I know you have some dairy.  I also know that you are very knowledgeable about your diet and supplements. Few have your dedication and determination. That is why I posted that is highly unlikely to be successful without animal protein.

I am actually curious about Dr. Garth Davis's patients.  He does a lot of Facebook posting and his arguments are sound.  I would love to see some of his patients. 

I lost my weight on a high protein diet and several years ago cut down considerably on the amount of meat I eat.  For me that resulted in low iron on my labs and iron supplements started at seven years out.

I have family in Venezuela, where it is not convenient to eat high protein.  Their everyday diet after surgery diet consists of rice, bread, bananas and other fruit, and vegetables.  Meat and fish are special occasion foods and then a pound of beef feeds a family of six.

Their weight loss surgery patients that I have met are gaunt and sickly looking years after their surgery.  People there were amazed that I had the surgery and did not look "sick". 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

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