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Laureen S.
on 1/5/13 9:30 pm - Maple Shade, NJ
Topic: RE: Intussusception, Aspirin, and Ulcers: Lessons Learned

WOW. . .  Lisa, first of all I am glad you went to the ER and 2ndly, thanks for the information. . .  last year I had a heart scare and they suggested I take a low dose baby aspirin if I had the pain return, until I had gone through the necessary testing. . .  I told them that I was a WLS post-op, they told me to take it with food and an anti acid and ONLY if I needed to.  But the lesson I've learned is that we have to realize our bodies are not NORMAL, which I also want to add here, that over time, I have read and heard of some people who fall off their vitamin regime, another dangerous folly.  While doctors are well meaning, oftentimes, as hard to believe as it is, they are not knowledgeable in our rerouted insides and don't know how to handle us.  So when choosing a doctor, it is important for us to know the rules.  On occasion when my pain is really bad I take Aleve, but again, sparingly and with food, as there are times nothing else relieves the pain. . .  Just glad to read you are now being treated as you needed and learned the lesson.  Please keep us updated and be well!!!

Hugs, Laureen


My Mantra is that I do not determine my success by the number hanging in my closet, nor will I let the scale determine that success either. . .  It is through trial and error I will continue to grow and succeed. . .  Laureen

"Success is a journey, not a destination."  Ben Sweetland

LisaAC
on 1/5/13 7:41 pm - Philadelphia, PA
Topic: Intussusception, Aspirin, and Ulcers: Lessons Learned

I hope everyone will read this and take a couple lessons from it.

Well, first, here's the story:

My abdominal pain became so severe and began to travel upward and scared me enough that I finally listened to my friends and  my husband, who for days had been urging me to go to the ER. We went on Thursday evening and gave the ER docs a real puzzle.   They ran another ct scan - which, I was later told, looked better than the one from a month ago.  Will explain shortly.  I  was admitted to the hospital at the advice of the on-call bariatric surgeon, whom I met the next day.

By a stroke of luck, she had studied under my own surgeon, about the time I had my surgery in '06, so she knew exactly what  my insides were going to look like before she ever took a look.  Regarding what looked like intussusception on my previous ct  scan: this seems to have worked itself out, as, she explained, it often does.  Apparently, everyone panics when they see that  - and it can be dangerous and must be followed up on - but it does often work itself out.

She did an endoscopy to look for ulcers on the pouch.  Not finding any, she strongly suspects that I've developed an ulcer on  the "remnant stomach," that is, the part of the stomach no longer in use on my digestive system since WLS.  

I've been out of work and un-insured for some time.  When I lost my insurance and money got really tight, I couldn't make  follow-up appointments with my surgeon any longer.  And I became so involved with fighting Lyme Disease and all that came  with it that I let myself fall off track.  I remembered protein and drink a lot - how I should eat, basically, but everything  else - all those little details - I had been so diligent about early on?  Well...I just forgot. Dealing with so much else  every day...and when a doctor suggested a few months back that I take a low dose aspirin daily, the only thing that came to  mind was the blood clot I had in my lung a couple years back and I thought: sure, good idea!

It wasn't until the other night, just before I was admitted, when a bariatric surgeon asked if I had taken this or that or  aspirin that it came to me, clear as a bell: I CAN'T TAKE ASPIRIN!

So, 2-3 months of low dose aspirin daily has likely burnt a hole in my unused stomach.  The surgeon can't be 100% sure of  that unless she actually goes in surgically, which she doesn't like to do unless she really must.  But the fact that I took  aspirin and the kind of pain I described in that location make it a pretty good bet that this is the case.  She is treating me with a strong  prescription antacid in high doses.

She had all the nutritional labs done for me and we will discuss in follow-up.  I have this hospital's financial assistance  plan, which provides a clinic, which she gives time to, so she told me to make an appointment to see her there.  She said she  sees a number of bariatric patients who fell through the cracks after losing their health insurance, thus losing their way.

I'm going to have this additional pain to deal with for at least a couple more months, which bites, but at least I know it's  not going to kill me.

The surgeon mentioned that their work is often sabotaged by well meaning docs *****commend aspirin/NSAIDs to bariatric  patients, not realizing what they are doing to them.  And she mentioned too that bariatric patients often are sent home from  ERs when docs can find nothing wrong; when contacted, she will normally want to see that patient herself before letting them  leave.

There are various things I need to re-learn.  Being a bariatric patient is not just about eating the right things. I need to  go and dig out all my old paperwork that came with the post-op diet and study it.  Know it.  There's a lesson I learned...I  need to learn the old lessons all over again.

Intussusception...learn the symptoms and tell your surgeon if you have any.  From what I've read, it seems to happen to folks 5-7  years out.  I had never heard of it.  Don't panic if your ct scan results show this, but do, absolutely do follow up on it.

Always try to go to an ER that has a bariatric program attached to it.  

Keep a list of all the drugs you take, including otc and supplements.  Bring it with you to the hospital every time.  At the  top of the list, it wouldn't hurt to jot down your wls date and type of surgery.  If you're sick or dealing with pain or  whatever else, take your temperature regularly, so you have some idea how to answer when they ask, "Have you had a fever?"   (For some reason, docs don't seem to accept the results of my mom's lips to forehead measurement of temperature taking :-))   Answer their questions, all of them, as clearly as you can; there are reasons for all of them.

Educate your doctors about the special needs of bariatric patients.  They are thinking of your well being when they prescribe  or recommend things, but if you know it's wrong, you must gently and with diplomacy remind them that you've had WLS and  therefore can't take aspirin, etc.

Sign only what you feel comfortable signing.  The on-call surgeon I saw in the ER had me sign a consent form, just in case,  for some kind of scan they might want to do.  He explained what it said, the risks involved, etc, and that if they found a  problem, they might have to do "a bowel resection, and on very very rare occasions, ostomy."  "You mean the bag?" I asked.   He confirmed this, so I said that I wouldn't agree to that. Personally, I've always felt that if something bad was found, I  wanted to be awakened intact so that I could make an informed decision, get 2nd, maybe 3rd opinions, and so on - whatever the  issue!  He looked surprised, but didn't get angry.  He just re-did the form with "ostomy" omitted.  

A nurse once explained to me that surgeons are trained to preserve life and will do so when the option exists.  If you want  them to do something other than that, you are responsible for being specific about it.

Stay on track.  Every so often, get out your bariatric info from those early days and read it again.  Don't forget that you  are different now.  Your insides are not like other people's.  You are different and different rules apply.

Oh - at the hospital, if you must go, try to keep you sense of humor.  Everyone there is under pressure.  I've always ended  up making people laugh at some point, which just makes it easier for everyone.

Finally, for the love of all you hold dear, do NOT take aspirin!

I hope the lessons I've learned and tried to share will help some of you from making some of the same blunders.

Wishing you all good health and much joy in 2013.

Lisa

"The important thing is this: To be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become."
Laureen S.
on 1/5/13 7:33 am - Maple Shade, NJ
Topic: Let's try this again. . .

Had a wonderful Support Group meeting and heck it's a new year, which for me brings a renewed vision of things I'd like to see come to pass in my world, often forgotten by the middle of February in my past life. . .   not so much now and so I ask, where are you all?  Those of you who once populated the PA Forum?  How much wonderful life are you experiencing?  Please come and let us know, think on or share some fond memories and if something is holding you back, please this is a support board, yes there have been times where some disagreeable things took place, but that which does not kill us, hopefully, makes us stronger and better for having had the experience.  In the end, truly we are more alike than different and we can overcome differences through acceptance and sharing what brought us together to begin with. . .  what's past is just that, it's a new year, let us reinvigorate this forum with just that, SUPPORT for those that need it and are just beginning. . .

A food log?  A call to physical activity?  Healthy WLS friendly recipes?  Anyone out there interested?

Whatever happens, I wish you as someone who once populated this board would often say. . .continued "successing"

Peace. . . .

Laureen


My Mantra is that I do not determine my success by the number hanging in my closet, nor will I let the scale determine that success either. . .  It is through trial and error I will continue to grow and succeed. . .  Laureen

"Success is a journey, not a destination."  Ben Sweetland

musicaldonna
on 1/4/13 9:03 am - PA
Topic: RE: Friday roll call

Hey Swede!

     Good to see you posting.  Sorry to hear about difficulties with your wife.  Hope that whatever happens will be best for everyone involved.  Glad to see that you are maintaining your weight loss.  The further out we are from surgery, the more difficult that becomes.  Best wishes for a 2013 that is filled with health, happiness and good people.  Take care.

Donna

swedeville1
on 1/3/13 11:44 pm - Mount Pleasant, PA
Topic: Friday roll call

Hi OH world.  I was checking in and noticed there wasn't a roll call so I figured I would post one.  I hope everyone is doing ok and has made it through the holidays relatively unscathed.  I am doing well, physically.  I have been maintaining my weight loss and continue to be relatively healthy.  I have been having some relationship problems with my wife, but that subject is for a whole different post.    

I hope everyone has a productive year and continues to work hard to keep what they have earned and I hope those of you waiting on surgery get your wishes granted and can begin your own journey.  Much love to you all.

Swede

HW=400  SW=383  CW=252  GW=240
Pounds to go=12!!!  Pounds Lost =148

mtforeman
on 1/3/13 9:53 am
Topic: RE: Intussusception? Anyone?
It sounds like you should definitey go. Who cares what they think anyway. I've read some horror stories online of people with abdominal problems who had to be really forceful to get the treatment they needed. .. sometimes going to the er three or four times. Just go and say you have concern that blood flow to part of your intestine may be cut off causing your symptoms and tell them you're a bariatric surgery patient.

I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I have several health problems that cause constant pain and I'm hesitant to take my own issues seriously also.
LisaAC
on 1/3/13 8:08 am - Philadelphia, PA
Topic: RE: Intussusception? Anyone?

Thanks for the research.  I did some as well, but it sounded pretty scary.  It's not resolved yet and I'm not sure what to do or if that's what's happening.  I dropped the ct scan disc at my surgeon's office and his nurse said that he looked at it, but "didn't see anything."  Whatever that means.

Meanwhile...the pain is growing, both in focus and in intensity.  Husband and friends want me to go to the ER, but I don't wanted to be treated like I'm making it up or it's all in my head.  Then what would I do?  On the other hand...it's getting kind of bad and I don't know that I should continue to try to hide the pain with drugs.  I am getting nauseated now whenever I eat anything, though have not vomited.  And I'm becoming constipated.

I might also have a uti...though, it doesn't feel like that pain is connected with the abdominal pain.  My WBC last week was slightly elevated, but my PCP didn't feel I had an infection.  I have not had a fever.  Just pain when and after I urinate.

So...pain in my ab, right near surgical site, at the waist and above it, radiating to both well above and just below.  And also groin pain.

I so don't want to go to the ER...

"The important thing is this: To be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become."
mtforeman
on 1/3/13 5:08 am
Topic: RE: Intussusception? Anyone?

I tried to look up some information for you!  I found one website that mentioned "nonopacified small bowl" and the doctor respondent stated that it was a "non specific finding" that probably wasn't causing the person pain.  (http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Digestive-Disorders---Gastroenterology/Abdominal-Pain/show/234094) Also, superioinferiorly is a term describing movement, from the upper (superior) to the lower (inferior).   The anastomoses involves a connection of two parts...perhaps connection of intestinal areas.  Sounds like you have intussusception figured out.  This site provides a good image of what it looks like:  http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/medical/IM00711 . 

Overall, I'm imagining his concern is basically if any of these things become severe enough to cut off blood flow to the part of the intestine that is being affected.  I'd go to the hospital if it feels highly painful.  It sounds like sometimes you're okay until it can be evaluated more carefully--all depends on how the blood is flowing.

I'm not a doctor!  I'm a librarian, actually. :)  However, I completely relate to your chronic pain issues and how we avoid addressing serious pain.  I do that as well.

Did you get your situation resolved already?  I see this thread has been around a short while...

 

musicaldonna
on 1/3/13 3:33 am - PA
Topic: RE: First Saturday Support Group (1/5/13) - Barix Clinics, Langhorne, PA

The date's been marked on my calendar for the past month.  Barring any unforeseen cir****tances I intend to be there and continue my WLS journey with the support I need.

Donna

Tammy C.
on 1/2/13 9:22 am
Topic: 2013: 20 Funny New Year's Resolutions

2013:  20 Funny New Year's Resolutions

When it comes to New Year's resolutions, our family members and friends can get quite creative and even funny with what they resolve to do in the New Year.  Here a few good ones I have heard along the way...Oh, and a few of my own!

1.  I resolve to stop procrastinating about procrastinating!

2.  I will stop sending Facebook messages and emails to my loved ones when they are in the same room as I am!

3.  I will use my treadmill for something other than a place to hang my jacket.

4.  I will not sit at the kitchen table in my PJ's all day.  Instead, I will move my computer to my bedroom.

5.  I vow to never take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night!

Click here to read more!

All my best, 

Tammy Colter
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Editor-In-Chief
ObesityHelp.com
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