what made you test the waters.....
so this question is for for the men and women who are a yr out plus. i have been going to support group meetings and there is people there who talk about eating things i would never even think to try (candy breads etc). so here is my question to you... how far were u out when u tried candy or sugar or bread or rice, what made you wanna try it and what happened to that fear of dumping that u over came and tried it?? im only 9 months and i still crave candy but i still have that fear and never want to loose it, do you think that if you didnt loose that fear that you wouldnt have gained that weight back that we are trying to loose again? do u wish you still had that fear? i treid diet soda for the first time and it burned my tounge so bad i will never think about drinking it again, has anyone ever tired diet soda? i just trying to see if its going to happen to me and if there is any way to stop it???
What I share is my own personal experience here and while it may be different for all, I can only share with you what I have experienced and done. . . honesty is what I strive for, because for too many years, I lied to myself and to others about what I was really doing. . .today I am true to myself.
So, what made me test the waters. . . my human nature and the fact that I just wanted a little taste of something that was something I remembered as being yummy, as my thoughts going into this were never to NOT have things again, but to get healthy and then learn to make better choices because of what I put myself through to get healthy and I did not have a terrible fear to begin with, I was more afraid of failing at losing the weight. . . I was 2+ months, it was Christmas Eve and I justified it because it was a pastry made with ricotta cheese. . . but sugar was an ingredient in it as well. . . I had one, put it on my food log and when I did not dump over it, I got scared knowing that I did not dump on it. However, it did not make me think I could have as much as I wanted, nor did I want to continue to indulge.
It was longer before I tried a piece of candy, bread and rice were things I can't remember when I had them, but always whole wheat/brown rice and very small amounts, rice is still something I can only eat about 2 tablespoons of, pasta is nothing I can tolerate either. . .
One of the things I have learned is just because you get away with something, ie, not dumping, does not mean you won't have that experience ever, because I have had things at times, that previously I had no problem with, only to find out, that sometimes there is an issue with having sugar/too many fats and I really have to ask myself if it is worth that, as it is unpleasant and then there is the weight gain issue. That is my main fear, to regain all my weight. I have had regain (25 lbs. from my lowest weight, of which I would be happy to lose 15 and am working on that with moderate success), but for me, my belief is that I have regained because I fell off the exercise routine that helped me maintain my weightloss.
So the bottom line is this, if you have the healthy fear that keeps you from testing the waters, then hold onto that as long as you can, the day may come when you choose differently, be prepared, as NEVER is a long, long time and I live in the real world. The other thing I have learned is to fear foods that I know are triggers to creating cravings that will be my undoing, for me those foods are chips and pretzels and chocolate, I don't bring those foods in my house and when someone else does, they leave with them or go immediately in the trash. There are substitutes that can be had, but even they can produce issues and so you will largely learn through your personal experiences. Remember, even good for you food, in excess can produce extra weight. Soda is something I did not have until I was almost 3 years out and since then, I've had it about 5x, not something I miss enough to want.
I wish you luck, I believe and tell others earlier on in their journey, make the most of the first 2 years post-op, because from experience I can say that things change for many of us after that point. But above all things, teach yourself to choose healthier options during the window of opportunity and then when you get further out, it makes it a bit easier to reach for those and don't beat yourself up when the day comes that you make a choice that is not in your best interests, just get back to what you know works, get a buddy (or several) who will be your sounding board for doing and helping keep you where you need to and want to be.
Laureen
So, what made me test the waters. . . my human nature and the fact that I just wanted a little taste of something that was something I remembered as being yummy, as my thoughts going into this were never to NOT have things again, but to get healthy and then learn to make better choices because of what I put myself through to get healthy and I did not have a terrible fear to begin with, I was more afraid of failing at losing the weight. . . I was 2+ months, it was Christmas Eve and I justified it because it was a pastry made with ricotta cheese. . . but sugar was an ingredient in it as well. . . I had one, put it on my food log and when I did not dump over it, I got scared knowing that I did not dump on it. However, it did not make me think I could have as much as I wanted, nor did I want to continue to indulge.
It was longer before I tried a piece of candy, bread and rice were things I can't remember when I had them, but always whole wheat/brown rice and very small amounts, rice is still something I can only eat about 2 tablespoons of, pasta is nothing I can tolerate either. . .
One of the things I have learned is just because you get away with something, ie, not dumping, does not mean you won't have that experience ever, because I have had things at times, that previously I had no problem with, only to find out, that sometimes there is an issue with having sugar/too many fats and I really have to ask myself if it is worth that, as it is unpleasant and then there is the weight gain issue. That is my main fear, to regain all my weight. I have had regain (25 lbs. from my lowest weight, of which I would be happy to lose 15 and am working on that with moderate success), but for me, my belief is that I have regained because I fell off the exercise routine that helped me maintain my weightloss.
So the bottom line is this, if you have the healthy fear that keeps you from testing the waters, then hold onto that as long as you can, the day may come when you choose differently, be prepared, as NEVER is a long, long time and I live in the real world. The other thing I have learned is to fear foods that I know are triggers to creating cravings that will be my undoing, for me those foods are chips and pretzels and chocolate, I don't bring those foods in my house and when someone else does, they leave with them or go immediately in the trash. There are substitutes that can be had, but even they can produce issues and so you will largely learn through your personal experiences. Remember, even good for you food, in excess can produce extra weight. Soda is something I did not have until I was almost 3 years out and since then, I've had it about 5x, not something I miss enough to want.
I wish you luck, I believe and tell others earlier on in their journey, make the most of the first 2 years post-op, because from experience I can say that things change for many of us after that point. But above all things, teach yourself to choose healthier options during the window of opportunity and then when you get further out, it makes it a bit easier to reach for those and don't beat yourself up when the day comes that you make a choice that is not in your best interests, just get back to what you know works, get a buddy (or several) who will be your sounding board for doing and helping keep you where you need to and want to be.
Laureen
My Mantra is that I do not determine my success by the number hanging in my closet, nor will I let the scale determine that success either. . . It is through trial and error I will continue to grow and succeed. . . Laureen
"Success is a journey, not a destination." Ben Sweetland
As Laureen said we can only speak for what we have personally experienced. I was NEVER afraid, I wish that I was. I was respectful and following the rules. For 6 months I didn't think about food, except for the first week post op when you want to eat everything. I realized that at 6 months my honeymoon was over. I had lost 245 lbs and knew I was going to struggle for the rest. It was Christmas time and I decided to have a glass of wine. I am not a wine drinker, I don't drink very often period. I drank the glass of wine and felt nothing. No pain, no sickness, and unfortunately no buzz. So I had 2 more glasses and still nothing. That was my "testing the waters". Not exactly how I would have thought that I would discover what I can and can't do.
I wish that I never did it because my mind is so strong that it held on to that fact. I have had a 60 lb. weight gain, for lots of different reasons but that glass of wine was the start.
The surgery is only a tool but a powerful one. I am thankful that I can only eat small amounts of good food before I am full. Its the damn sliders and mostly the carbs (bad ones) that are my downfall.
If fear works for you then try and hold onto it. The first time I over ate I did get sick and believe me it was a very long time before it happened again.
I have found the mantra of One Day at a Time to be so much of a help to me. Sometimes it is one minute at a time.
Diet soda burned your tongue and you don't want to have that feeling then that is good. Craving that candy bar, can you eat a tiny piece and be happy with it? If not is one going to be enough? Are you willing to "test the dumping waters". It is different for each of us, but one thing that we all agree it is unpleasant . Keep busy. My hero in this journey has always quoted from Weigh****chers and that is nothing feels as good as being thin feels.
I hope that I can say that one day.
Good luck to you
Jeanne
I wish that I never did it because my mind is so strong that it held on to that fact. I have had a 60 lb. weight gain, for lots of different reasons but that glass of wine was the start.
The surgery is only a tool but a powerful one. I am thankful that I can only eat small amounts of good food before I am full. Its the damn sliders and mostly the carbs (bad ones) that are my downfall.
If fear works for you then try and hold onto it. The first time I over ate I did get sick and believe me it was a very long time before it happened again.
I have found the mantra of One Day at a Time to be so much of a help to me. Sometimes it is one minute at a time.
Diet soda burned your tongue and you don't want to have that feeling then that is good. Craving that candy bar, can you eat a tiny piece and be happy with it? If not is one going to be enough? Are you willing to "test the dumping waters". It is different for each of us, but one thing that we all agree it is unpleasant . Keep busy. My hero in this journey has always quoted from Weigh****chers and that is nothing feels as good as being thin feels.
I hope that I can say that one day.
Good luck to you
Jeanne
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