starting to feel hungry
I seem to be more hungry then anything lately.. I am hoping it goes away .. I am averaging the last few days about 600-780 in calories before I was doing like 500 .. I am not over eating I try to drink when i feel hungry.. my protein intake today was 80, my carn intake today was 32 (16 of that is the shake with milk)..I am wondering if anyone has any ideas on things that will fill more fufilling.. I am eating things like cheese and potroast and doing my shakes..
i did make a bad food choice today ( although really I dont think it was too bad in the end)
I ate 1 cranberry girlscout cookie
cal 60
fat2.5
carb 9
and sugar 3.5
protein .5
really wasnt too bad , its not something I think I will eat again it was good but didnt wow me you know.. and I really just wanted to try it ..
i did make a bad food choice today ( although really I dont think it was too bad in the end)
I ate 1 cranberry girlscout cookie
cal 60
fat2.5
carb 9
and sugar 3.5
protein .5
really wasnt too bad , its not something I think I will eat again it was good but didnt wow me you know.. and I really just wanted to try it ..
Hi,
You shouldn't be feeling any hunger this soon after surgery. Might just be head hunger.
At the same point where you are at, I was averaging between 400-500 calories still. It was't until I reached about 4 months that I started to have 600-700 calories.
Don't beat yourself up about the girlscout cookie, one bad choice isn't the end of the world. I would however focus on why you had the surgery and how important the weight loss is. Remember, all the junk food that got us where we are will still be there at the end of the energy. Your really not missing out on anything.
Best of luck on your journey.
Geoff
You shouldn't be feeling any hunger this soon after surgery. Might just be head hunger.
At the same point where you are at, I was averaging between 400-500 calories still. It was't until I reached about 4 months that I started to have 600-700 calories.
Don't beat yourself up about the girlscout cookie, one bad choice isn't the end of the world. I would however focus on why you had the surgery and how important the weight loss is. Remember, all the junk food that got us where we are will still be there at the end of the energy. Your really not missing out on anything.
Best of luck on your journey.
Geoff
Try eating denser things if you are allowed. If your doc said no stea****il 3 mos out then don't have steak earlier than that.
I agree that some of this may be head hunger.
Are you allowed any meat proteins yet? Such as chicken and what not? If so, eat those things but not as moist or "slider" foods, such as the pot roast which is normally had with gravy and what not. Try an indoor grilled or bake piece of chicken with just a little ketchup or something.
And now it's time to get harsh. There is a recurrent theme of your posts regarding "it wasn't that bad" or "I just wanted to try it" or "I didn't get sick but it wasn't the best choice" or "I should have measured but I didn't" "My friend brought it to me and I didn't want to make her feel bad" think about what you are doing. True, one or two cookies isn't "that bad", but for crying out loud you are less than 3 mos out of surgery. This is your time to shine and to RETEACH your body and your brain what you need vs what you want. If you allow yourself this early out to "try" things I can guarantee you that a year or two, or ten, down the road you will be looking at what "trying" things really did to you. Because it gets harder and harder years down the road to stay on track. Let alone if you are already cheating yourself.
Nobody said this was an easy road, and the mental part of it is the WORST and the HARDEST to get through. We get that. But give yourself a fighting chance and do NOT allow yourself to find out what your sugar and fat tolerances are. Follow it through and through to the letter. The first year is IMERITIVE and the first 3 mos....I can't stress how important they are. Break the habits and break them now.
I know that all sounds mean...but it's because we care.
I agree that some of this may be head hunger.
Are you allowed any meat proteins yet? Such as chicken and what not? If so, eat those things but not as moist or "slider" foods, such as the pot roast which is normally had with gravy and what not. Try an indoor grilled or bake piece of chicken with just a little ketchup or something.
And now it's time to get harsh. There is a recurrent theme of your posts regarding "it wasn't that bad" or "I just wanted to try it" or "I didn't get sick but it wasn't the best choice" or "I should have measured but I didn't" "My friend brought it to me and I didn't want to make her feel bad" think about what you are doing. True, one or two cookies isn't "that bad", but for crying out loud you are less than 3 mos out of surgery. This is your time to shine and to RETEACH your body and your brain what you need vs what you want. If you allow yourself this early out to "try" things I can guarantee you that a year or two, or ten, down the road you will be looking at what "trying" things really did to you. Because it gets harder and harder years down the road to stay on track. Let alone if you are already cheating yourself.
Nobody said this was an easy road, and the mental part of it is the WORST and the HARDEST to get through. We get that. But give yourself a fighting chance and do NOT allow yourself to find out what your sugar and fat tolerances are. Follow it through and through to the letter. The first year is IMERITIVE and the first 3 mos....I can't stress how important they are. Break the habits and break them now.
I know that all sounds mean...but it's because we care.
Instead of complaining that the rosebush has thorns, be happy that the thorn bush has roses. 
I agree with Pam, this is head hunger not true hunger. The nerve endings in your stomach haven't had enough time to heal yet to give these signals.
Try eating denser proteins to feel fuller longer. Ground meats are a great option if you can't have steak or chicken yet. Follow your Surgeons instructions to the "T".
I am glad that Pam started it off to because I was also going to get harsh. This early out pushing your pouch can actually do permanent physical damage. It might sound like 1 cookie but that amount of sugar (all be it small) could have made you very sick and severly irritated your pouch. DON'T try steak before you are told it's OK. Imagine shoving a brillo pad across an open wound - that is what food through your stomach early out is like. Food is abrasive against a fresh surgical wound.
I don't mean to sound mean but I want you to do awesome with your tool! I've sen too many cases of people sabotauging themselves early out and then at a year out they blame the surgery for "failing" when they haven't lost as much as they should have or wanted to. ALl of those "I shouldn't haves" add up VERY quickly. Right now that 60 calories that was in the girl scout cookie is basically an entire meal. Your calories should be around 500-700 at 2 months out.
Remember we are harsh because we care and want you to do your best!
Try eating denser proteins to feel fuller longer. Ground meats are a great option if you can't have steak or chicken yet. Follow your Surgeons instructions to the "T".
I am glad that Pam started it off to because I was also going to get harsh. This early out pushing your pouch can actually do permanent physical damage. It might sound like 1 cookie but that amount of sugar (all be it small) could have made you very sick and severly irritated your pouch. DON'T try steak before you are told it's OK. Imagine shoving a brillo pad across an open wound - that is what food through your stomach early out is like. Food is abrasive against a fresh surgical wound.
I don't mean to sound mean but I want you to do awesome with your tool! I've sen too many cases of people sabotauging themselves early out and then at a year out they blame the surgery for "failing" when they haven't lost as much as they should have or wanted to. ALl of those "I shouldn't haves" add up VERY quickly. Right now that 60 calories that was in the girl scout cookie is basically an entire meal. Your calories should be around 500-700 at 2 months out.
Remember we are harsh because we care and want you to do your best!
I agree with adding more dense proteins. Fish is an excellent choice - a light fish such as tilapia goes down easily. I enjoy steamed shrimp as well. Both are concentrated sources of protein that work well.
Pam mentioned using ketchup to help things go down better - you can get Heinz low sugar ketchup at Walmart and most grocery chains now.
That cookie? Let me say this. I would URGE you to follow your nutriitonal plan to a "T". No variation. I want to share a couple of things that I learned early out from my support group that have been very valuable to me.
These are quotes, as nearly as I can recall them:
1. You have spent __ years making up your own rules about what you would eat, and the result is that it has landed you HERE. (Meaning...a surgeon's office.) When you have surgery, you commit to following the rules set forth by a surgeon. You must hold to that commitment for life. Your rules don't work any more.
2. I do not eat sugar.
3. I do not eat refined carbohydrates.
With regard to #1 - I sense that you want to adjust the rules. "But I'm hungry!" is that old way of thinking. "I want it!" is the thinking that got you to the surgeon's door. It's time to work HARD on overcoming that thinking and go back to the rules set forth by your surgeon.....TODAY. Dump the cookies. Give them to your neighbors. Now. Next time, order cookies to be sent to the troops in Afghanistan (you can do that, you know).
With regard to #2 and #3. Hearing someone who has been tremendously successful with her weight loss and maiintenance say these words gave me strength - almost immediately - to know that I could say them too. It is a wonderful sense of compentence and confidence to be able to say to myself that the last item I ate with added sugar was on July 2, 2009. The last refined carbs were about July 12, 2009. When you indulge in cookies (and I dare say that one will turn into multiples unless you get hold of this in a BIG way right NOW), you rob yourself of that sense of self mastery and competence.
It's up to you, of course.
Every day gives you the chance to experience success in many different ways. How about expanding that list and telling us how that feels?
And the ultimate question is....how much do you want it? You might be "hungry" for a cookie. But what do you want more? the cookie or weight loss? the cookie or personal confidence? the cookie or the victory you can experience every day?
My best advice? Don't let the cookie win. Put them down the disposal. Now.
Pam mentioned using ketchup to help things go down better - you can get Heinz low sugar ketchup at Walmart and most grocery chains now.
That cookie? Let me say this. I would URGE you to follow your nutriitonal plan to a "T". No variation. I want to share a couple of things that I learned early out from my support group that have been very valuable to me.
These are quotes, as nearly as I can recall them:
1. You have spent __ years making up your own rules about what you would eat, and the result is that it has landed you HERE. (Meaning...a surgeon's office.) When you have surgery, you commit to following the rules set forth by a surgeon. You must hold to that commitment for life. Your rules don't work any more.
2. I do not eat sugar.
3. I do not eat refined carbohydrates.
With regard to #1 - I sense that you want to adjust the rules. "But I'm hungry!" is that old way of thinking. "I want it!" is the thinking that got you to the surgeon's door. It's time to work HARD on overcoming that thinking and go back to the rules set forth by your surgeon.....TODAY. Dump the cookies. Give them to your neighbors. Now. Next time, order cookies to be sent to the troops in Afghanistan (you can do that, you know).
With regard to #2 and #3. Hearing someone who has been tremendously successful with her weight loss and maiintenance say these words gave me strength - almost immediately - to know that I could say them too. It is a wonderful sense of compentence and confidence to be able to say to myself that the last item I ate with added sugar was on July 2, 2009. The last refined carbs were about July 12, 2009. When you indulge in cookies (and I dare say that one will turn into multiples unless you get hold of this in a BIG way right NOW), you rob yourself of that sense of self mastery and competence.
It's up to you, of course.
Every day gives you the chance to experience success in many different ways. How about expanding that list and telling us how that feels?
And the ultimate question is....how much do you want it? You might be "hungry" for a cookie. But what do you want more? the cookie or weight loss? the cookie or personal confidence? the cookie or the victory you can experience every day?
My best advice? Don't let the cookie win. Put them down the disposal. Now.
Jenn, here is another thought that may help.
You can eat very little food, overall.
So what you eat has to count, in a big way, for the good.
Ask yourself...what is the VALUE of this item, before putting it in your mouth. Does this do me good? Does this help me reach ,my goals? I just glanced at your profile page - will that cookie (or whatever comes next) - help you fit into the next restaurant booth, or have "skinny sex"?
You can eat very little food, overall.
So what you eat has to count, in a big way, for the good.
Ask yourself...what is the VALUE of this item, before putting it in your mouth. Does this do me good? Does this help me reach ,my goals? I just glanced at your profile page - will that cookie (or whatever comes next) - help you fit into the next restaurant booth, or have "skinny sex"?
I think you for your input, the harsh words don't bother me.. I post things so I know what to do..
I know I need to retrain my brain and my body and that is what I am trying to do .. sweets were not an issue for me before.. but I will not have another cookie regardless..
I think I am more worried I feel weak often and my tummy actually did feel hungry. my meals are normally chicken, roast more chicken more roast or cheese.. that is what I eat day in and day out.. nothing bothers my stomache( I don't mean I have tried to irritate it , I just know some meats bother other people) . I DO NOT like seafood or fish- so those are not choices for me ..
I will just look at trying to get more protein in thru another shake or something .. I found muscle milk lite that I seem to like so that has helped..
I will SUCCEED at this-
I know I need to retrain my brain and my body and that is what I am trying to do .. sweets were not an issue for me before.. but I will not have another cookie regardless..
I think I am more worried I feel weak often and my tummy actually did feel hungry. my meals are normally chicken, roast more chicken more roast or cheese.. that is what I eat day in and day out.. nothing bothers my stomache( I don't mean I have tried to irritate it , I just know some meats bother other people) . I DO NOT like seafood or fish- so those are not choices for me ..
I will just look at trying to get more protein in thru another shake or something .. I found muscle milk lite that I seem to like so that has helped..
I will SUCCEED at this-
YAY! that's the attitude there girly!
Denser proteins will keep you fuller longer and make you more satisfyed in the long run. If you DO crave something sweet ( I have a chocolate monster in my brain) I eat sugar free pudding.
Oh and you might want to try seafood again - our tastes are known to change drastically after surgery! Pre-op I HATED tomatoes, now I eat at least 1 a day all summer long AND I am craving them now!
Ground meats are a great alternative - you can make 1 million different kinds of burgers - things even that your family will eat!
How are you doing with your fluids?
Denser proteins will keep you fuller longer and make you more satisfyed in the long run. If you DO crave something sweet ( I have a chocolate monster in my brain) I eat sugar free pudding.
Oh and you might want to try seafood again - our tastes are known to change drastically after surgery! Pre-op I HATED tomatoes, now I eat at least 1 a day all summer long AND I am craving them now!
Ground meats are a great alternative - you can make 1 million different kinds of burgers - things even that your family will eat!
How are you doing with your fluids?
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