Sorry guys

Hey all,

Well I just caught up with all the drama that I apparantly stirred up before I went to bed yesterday.  Didn't sleep well yesterday, even though I wasn't online, so I ended up sleeping in last night and going right to work, not checking the boards and/or FB prior to going to work

I am not sorry for my actual words, but I am sorry for all the commotion it caused here on our pa forum.  I do hope those who need help find their way and the ability to help themselves, are able to do so, through whichever avenue is right for them.

I hope if there are newer members here, or lurkers, that they understand that the drama that took place yesterday is NOT what generally happens here on the pa forum.  We truly are a life support for each other, as well as a big family.  See laura's post...she summed it up beautifully - as did all the responses.

Not to say that people don't speak the truth and give kick in the arses when needed.  It should be noted that we tell people when they are doing something wrong and are willing to give advice.

So - to sum up:

TO ALL MY FRIENDS:  Thanks for supporting me in all the ways you always have and all the ways you continue to do so.  I know in my heart I would not have made it this far without all of you

TO ALL THE NEW ONES:   I promise I'm not a big nasty person...and 99.9% of the people on this board are not either.  Everyone is here for the same thing...support.

Love and support,

Pam

You got it girly!! We all told her how it was and she just needs to suck it up and deal with the consequences. DOn't mess with the PA board we stick together through thick and thin!

Love you too!

Liz

Don't ever apologize to us for speaking your mind on these boards, because those of us who have been around for a while know there isn't a mean bone in your body, and for most of the newbies the wealth of good information and support they get from you right up front speaks volumes about what kind of person you are.

Sadly our other poster (QD) has had issues from the beginning and has never kept an open mind when it came to the advice or type of support we've tried to provide her with - I know she's come back at me more than once so I finally just stopped responding to all of her posts - it wasn't worth the aggrevation.

All that being said I doubt she'll ever post out here again and its no great loss - losing you, however, would be devastating - speaking for myself I would never label you a nasty person and know if you're giving someone a boot in the butt they need it and deserve it (including me!!).

Pam,

There is absolutely no reason for you to apologize for anything!!!  I loved your response yesterday and was glad that QD was finally called on the carpet for her behavior.  You had no idea she would react the way she did and are in no way responsible for anything that took place.   I value your responses to folks and try to read everything you post.  Yeah, there was a lot of drama yesterday, but only one person was responsible for it---and it wasn't you.

Thanks for always being honest and supportive!!!

Julia

Hi Pam,


I want to thank you for what you said to QD. You said exactly what I was thinking....(ok, maybe I was meaner). LOL!  But the advice that you gave her was exactly what we were all thinking. This journey is not an easy one and we can't just sit around and wait for the weight to fall off, we need to work it. Sometimes people need to hear it like it is and that is exactly what you told her.

To not follow the plan can be life threatening and I thank you for your post because not only did you tell it to her like it is, you gave all of us a kick in the butt that we may have needed!! 

Although I have not met you in person (yet) I can tell how genuine you are just from your posts. You are usually the first one to answer someones questions. I thank you for your contributions and you are a HUGE assest to this board!!

You don't need to apologize at all. She was entirely out of line with you any everybody else who dared to challenge her on her awful follow-through. I will not tolerate people attacking my freinds when they give genuine, heartfelt, sincere advice.

You prveiously showed more patience than she proved herself worth. I admire your restraint.

This is a great group of people, willing to help anybody from the get-go.

But when it becomes evident that someone is beyond help until they get their other affairs in order, then there's nothing wrong with moving on.

Why pour milk into a broken glass, you know?

Pam......you didn't do anything wrong! No need to apologize.

You were not the one who created any drama, You stated what needed to be said. As a newbie around here I really appreciate the advice you and everyone else gives.  I don't come on here looking for a pity party( as it was apparent someone else was doing) I come on here looking to learn the best way to use the tools that I have been given.  I value each and every person on here, you guys have no idea what you have come to mean to me even though I don't know anyone well yet. I thank everyone for all of the wonderful advice, opinions and support they give every single day.  Just know that there many of us out there that appreciate it much more than you will ever know.  As I move forward on this journey I hope to be able to help others the same way I am helped.  Bottom line is thank you!
 

Pam -
Apologies from you are certainly not necessary.  QD is the one who should be apologizing for the filthy spew that she put out on this board yesterday, but hopefully she won't come back. Typical bottom feeder behavior for sure.  

I like your approach.  Sometimes words are hard to hear, but when they are coming from someone who has been down the road, it is really appreciated.  Especially by me !

Hugs !
Lisa

Was there drama? lol


Several people said pretty much the same thing .......... and have been saying it since I've been here. I don't know crap about all of this compared to those of you that have "lived" it. I didn't stick my nose in the discussion because I'm a newbie. But ya know, even I would have responded pretty much the same way. This site, and all the info you get from your surgeon's process, pretty much covers all the bases.
My question of the day ............. why are there so many posts (mostly on the main and RNY boards) that ask: "what vitamins should I take?", "I ate meat a week after surgery and got sick .... why?", "what can I eat on a pureed diet?", etc .........
I only ask because I can't believe this isn't covered during the pre-op stage. The only answer I can come up with are the insurances that don't have any supervised weight loss criteria. Maybe the short start to finish time gives too much information to totally comprehend.  I guess I just don't believe there are surgeons that don't have a program in place given the environment we live in.
So back to the original thread's theme ........... thanks for those posts. They can only help those of us who are just beginning the journey.