Little bit bummed out

(deactivated member)
on 8/16/09 12:42 pm - Glenside, PA
It seems I can eat pretty much anything and not dump.  The worst I've had is a shaky cold feeling and some stomach cramps. 

I'm kinda bummed because I was counting on that to help keep me on track, but everything I've tried has been pretty good.  My only issues have been with eating too much or some things sit very heavy in my pouch.

Can dumping develop later?  I'm only 5 weeks out tomorrow.

*sigh* 
nikkib1216
on 8/16/09 12:46 pm
you are too early out to test the waters and take it from me don't start.  The last three weeks for me have been ****ty.  i have been eating anything and everything.  Tomorrow i am getting back to basics and will be living by the protien first saying.  Good luck. 

Nikki

(deactivated member)
on 8/16/09 12:53 pm - Glenside, PA
Thanks for the response Nikki.  I'm not doing too badly, but I had a game day with my siblings yesterday and had about 1/2 a bottle of wine over the course of 4 hours.   I also drink prune juice for bowel reasons and can tolerate the entire 8 oz portion size (which is a lot of sugar) without ill effects. 

Patricia R.
on 8/16/09 7:57 pm - Perry, MI
Wine is not recommended so soon out from surgery.  Way too dangerous with your stitches and other things.  At four weeks out, I was only on pureed foods and that's about it.  Why are you experimenting?
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jojobear98
on 8/16/09 9:46 pm - Gettysburg, PA

You need to get your head back in the game. At 5 weeks out, those type of things shouldn't even be an option for tasting or trying.

STICK to the specified plan. The "tool" only works if you apply the eating habits that it needs. As Trish said.......testing the waters isn't a good thing. Especially this early out. Focus on yourself, the food plan, and being successful. And you will do fine.

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Pam Hart
on 8/16/09 11:31 pm - Easton, PA
The prune juice may have been natural sugars...I don't know if there was added sugars to it.

The wine....wow....you need to cut that out NOW.  Game day or not.  Part of this surgery is to relearn how to live a healthier lifestyle.  And that's the HARDEST part of this surgery..is the relearning...but totally worth it.

Your sutures/intestines/internal surgical incisions are still healing and wine or alcohol of ANY type will definately not help that.  And, alcohol completely increases chances of ulcer development.  Although I have been lucky enough to not have had them - I know the stories from people on this board scare me enough to never WANT to have them.  Not being able to tolerate even water...doesn't sound like fun.

The first 6mos to a year after surgery HAS TO BE your most selfish time frame.  Everything is about you - end of story.  What you can and cannot eat.  When you cannot and cannot eat.  How much fluid how much protein how much sugar....it's a LOT to take in...but so worth it.

Use your tool - learn how to use it now...you will need it for life.

Pam
Instead of complaining that the rosebush has thorns, be happy that the thorn bush has roses.
kgoeller
on 8/17/09 12:17 am - Doylestown, PA
You've gotten some good advice so far, but I'd like to add an additional perspective here...

Your pouch and any "dumping" are your SAFETY NET... they are tools in your tool pouch, and nothing more.  If you "rely" on them to keep you on track, instead of having the self-discipline to keep yourself on track, ultimately they will wear out just as any tool will.  Pouches stretch... not everyone dumps... etc.  It's not our stomachs that got any of us to the point of needing WLS, after all!  

I'm in a bit of a unique position here, in that Dr. P couldn't complete my bypass, so I have a little pouchie kinda thing, but it's still connected to everything else.  Because of that I don't dump.  I also COULD get away with eating more (albeit slowly) at a sitting.  

HOWEVER, I made the commitment to myself and to Dr. P when I found out about the problem that prevented her completing the bypass that I would act exactly as if she HAD completed it.  I would do the best that I possibly could with what I have (and I have a commitment from her that if I have a clean bill of health from the oncologists, she will complete the bypass if I still want it and need it).

At this point, behaving as though I have a full RNY is becoming second nature to me... behaving as though I would dump if I ate more than 2g of sugar in a serving... not eating more than 3/4 - 1 cup of food at any meal... staying carefully within my protein and fat guidelines.... maintaining my pepcid prescription and my vitamins.

The surgery gave me a tremendous gift - the lack of true hunger for at least several months, which allowed me to detox from many of my trigger foods - sugar and white flour being the biggies.  It kicked me in the butt and got me to move... incorporating walking, and then more aggressive exercise into my daily routine.  I still don't get really hungry, maintain 5 - 6 small meals per day, which I plan, and as long as I scrupulously avoid my personal triggers, I don't have cravings (often - i do still fight them once in a while).

I have never in my life succeeded at a "diet" despite many, many, many attempts.  But this isn't a diet and it's not a diet mentality.  I changed my life in April and there is simply no going back.  It's not about "testing the waters" or "pushing the limits" with regard to eating different things - I know that I probably could tolerate whatever... but I have to keep in mind that that's a really slippery slope and that I could so easily reverse everything I've achieved so far.  It's about pushing MY limits of success on a daily basis - and on an hourly basis and a minute-by-minute basis sometimes.

Don't put all your weight on your RNY to carry you through this and into success.  It's not strong enough to do it by itself.  You can succeed and use the tool as it was intended - as a safety net and boost to your behavior modification - so that your success will be lifelong! 

Hope this helps!
Karen
magofa
on 8/17/09 12:34 am - Wilkes-Barre, PA
I reallly don't know if dumping can occur later on. I've experienced it "accidentally" a few times since my surgery and the thought of it really stops me from testing the waters. I have to agree with everyone else though. Five weeks out I was still on purees. Wine was NOT an option but 100% fruit juice was so maybe if it's pure fruit juice it wouldn't make anyone dump.
Bonnie
HW 248.9;SW 221; CW 138.7


(deactivated member)
on 8/17/09 10:39 am - Glenside, PA
Thanks, everyone for the responses.  You've really given me a lot to think about. 
I'm so glad this forum is here.  I appreciate the support more than I can say. 

I come everyday and read about all the incredible moments everyone has and they are inspiring.  Thank you all.
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