Excercise

patty cassady
on 2/5/09 4:49 pm - Lake Oswego, OR
Hi everyone!

Some of you know me, so many of you are new on your journeys here.  I am approaching my fifth year since surgery.  I lost 175 pounds and have never had a regain....well until just this past six months.  I have some theories as to why (I went on hormones and am pushing menopause and fifty, had total knee replacement surgery, got a bit complacent in some of the good habits I know are the reason for my success, etc.) but I don't feel panic.  To lose and keep off that percentage of weight for so long is considered a huge success and I would be O.K. if I didn't get it off.  But, I do care, and I have gone back to basics to hopefully see it go away!  It's about fifteen pounds and that is enough to make my clothes feel tight. 

I'm turning back to protein first, lots of water drinking, going to bed earlier.  If I stay up too late I get hungry again which is normal.  I always get hungry after about three hours no matter what time of day it is.   If I'm asleep I don't get woken up cause of the hunger, but if I'm watching Conen and my stomach is growling, I am going to eat again that day!   I have never counted calories or measured my food since day one of my surgery, and I'm not going to start now.  I take my supplements and get my labs, stick to the basic rules and it has worked for me. 

Confession one....I did not excercise for about the first two months post-op.  Movement was so hard, and my joints still hurt quite a lot.  I knew I would start to excercise when the weight started to come off and I did.  Since I have bad knees, swimming was my only option.  It may still be, cause I have a new knee, but my other one is going to have to go at some point too.  Post-op I swam three to four days a week and worked up to about 30 min.  I didn't count laps, just looked at the clock and told myself as long as I keep moving the whole time that's all that counts.  I grew up on a lake and can swim like a fish, but I cannot do the official crawl which is what ALL the "real"  lap swimmers do.  And as a really fat girl who didn't want to be there, that intimidated me all the more.  Maybe it is more cardio doing the crawl, and you look much more official, but I ge****er in my nose and eyes, and just can't do it.  Maybe I would have gotten more results, but for me this was what I could do and just made myself do it.  Hey, some of my laps were dog paddle!  I am convinced that with that committment, and the bypass doing the eating control thing, and the fact that as the weight came off I did start being MUCH more active in daily life (lawn mowing, painting, walking the dogs, etc.) this was a formula that worked very well for me.

I hate formal excercise.  I hate sweating.  I still can't get out of the mind set that I have so much I need to do, that I should clean out the garage instead of going and paying money to excercise.  I don't think I will ever rise above this mentality, and as long as the weight is gone and I am healthy and getting my heart going in my daily life - then I admit and accept this very bad attitude.  BUT....we are here to get weight off and get healthy.  I am not here to talk anyone into joining my lame attitudes about formal excercise.  I'm just admitting that for me....Jack LaLane I ain't.  

The real topic I am here to address is about going to health clubs/swimming pools as a super morbidly obese person, as I was for many years.  When you are over three hundred pounds it can feel almost impossible to get in any comfort zone about joining into this world.  During my serious first couple of years I did just that, and am offering some of my own experiences and observations.  This all came into my mind, because as part of my taking notice that I have gained this weight, I rejoined Club Sport and have been going these past two weeks.  I don't weight myself, but I think I have already started to turn it around.  I also am glad to be back believe it or not.  Being there though, reminded me of all those feelings and challenges I had going to these places when I was SO uncomfortable with myself.  I live in Southwest, and the
places I went for swimming were Club Sport, Southwest Community Center, and 24 Hour Fitness. 

I think all three were great, but I am so glad to be back at Club Sport.  Since I was re-joining, I didn't have to pay anything to get in and it's costing me $100 a month.  24 also would let me back in with no start up (these places are desperate right now) and the Community Centers have coupon books for frequent users.  Price wise Club Sport was really not that much more, and I can't say how much more they have there.  Everything from supplying the shampoo, shaving cream, deoderant, hair blowers, lotion, Q-tips, towels, hot tub in the ladies locker room, tons of free classes including some with the lights dimmed low that I think would make ME feel less self concious in the back row, a machine that wrings out your wet suit and supplies plastic bags to put it in, etc.  The only thing I have to bring is a clean pair of undies and my bathing suit.  The lack of hassle is huge in helping me to not end up not going.  I know nobody can afford anything in these tough times, but I found that since I was going to go back to swimming, I found this wasn't as out  of the ballpark as I thought it would be.  It was not much more than the others.

I rate 24 hour as pretty darn nice too.  Very clean.  What didn't work for me was  they didn't have as many lap lanes available at all times.  I kept running into pool classes that would make me not able to start swimming the laps, and believe me....I am talking myself out of doing excercise until I'm almost thru my first lap.  I am lame enough to get there, get in my suit, sit in the hot tub, and decide to leave. 

Community Center was a very good option too.  I guess my feeling as a reluctant and self concious excerciser, is that there is no privacy in the locker rooms, and there is much more "community" which is what it is there for - that's not a bad thing.  But I was sharing less space with lots of kids and activity.  It just felt like more of a  hassle, and I had to schlep more stuff with me, and deal with a full wet gym bag, etc.  You will see a much more real representation of folks, as in a fit and perfect athelete type is the exception rather than the rule.  Lots of old, wrinkled, fat, real looking people, and I never felt uncomfortable there in that way.  It was more that I hated the locker room set up - little privacy.  You get what you pay for. 

I may have lost the weight, and in clothes I can look pretty good, but believe me until I get that plastic surgery, I don't look so hot naked or in a bathing suit.  So, I feel I can still address the FEELINGS that I know are hindering some of my peers here from getting themselve out into public places to get that excercise we need!!  Club Sport is the epitome of super fit, both old and young perfect bodies, who all RUN on the treadmills, and walk around the locker room naked, go in the hot tub naked, wear expensive serious fitness clothes, etc.  The kind of people we think we don't belong with, or don't feel comfortable around.  24 hour fitness is the same.  I used to feel I had to wait until I got thin to feel like I could go to those places.  I am here for a pep talk to tell you not to let that be your way of thinking!  If you get in there and get familiar with a routine in a place like that, figure out when to go, where to change, how to get in the pool without feeling like a spectacle, find a place you feel O.K. changing, you won't feel that feeling for long.   I found that people are really busy, rushed, into themselve, aren't there to notice you or give you disapproving looks.  I found everyone to be actually very nice and they approve and LIKE to see someone trying to improve their fitness.  The ones that don't fit that category (mostly the very young and vain) are so not into anyone but themselves they are not there to notice you.  It was O.K. with me to pretty much be invisible to those ones. Really, we are so mortified by our body images that we are sure people are really noticing us and judging us, but I just didn't find that to be the case.  I do remember the WOW moment of actually being able to use normal towels, but until then I brought a beach towel I knew would fit around me.  Even Club Sport doesn't have any dressing rooms with curtains, so I change in the handicap stall.  That works.  I am not the only one that wears my bathing suit in the hot tub.  The staff is never anything but supportive (at least at these two clubs I went to).  Being self concious, having a chip on your shoulder that people are judging you for your weight, those are issues you need to confront and get rid of.  I can say with honesty, that I never experienced one negative experience when I got out and went to those clubs.  I don't disbelieve it has happened to folks, but I do think our own attitude helps too.  People aren't nearly as interested in others as you may think when you are sure they are there to judge you for being so fat.

It's just so weird that the very place we need to be to get this weight off, is the place we are the most reluctant to go.  Not feeling like we can get the courage to walk through the door and get started is very commen.  I am pushing you all to get in there if you can afford it, and get a routine going.  I only asked myself to commit to three days a week, any more is bonus days.  To add my whole family was another $100 a month.  This has been great for us as a family.  We decided to give up magazines, bottled water, store bought cookies, my Oregonian, and see less movies to squeeze this back into our budget.  I may not be able to afford it after all, but for a least three months I want to give it my all and get back down to my fighting weight. 

Maybe some of you are finding other ways to get the excercise in, but for me, that first hundred pounds I just couldn't do other forms of excercise.  I think the swimming hits all the body parts and doesn't hurt the joints.  I feel like cardio is the answer when your trying to go down.  The treadmill was great too, but only after I got some weight off my knees. 

My schedule is way too scattered to committ to a group effort, though I think that can be a great way to get yourself comitted to going somewhere.  If anyone needs someone to help them go a first time and get through the awkwardness of being there, I'll go if I can.  Or call on one of us that is in your area.  We are all in this together! 

Patty




Patty T.
on 2/6/09 5:31 am, edited 2/6/09 5:31 am - Boalsburg, PA
What a great and thoughtful post!

I also swim. I used to have issues with displaying my old 450 lb self in a bathing suit, but I'm over it. I still am self-concious when I'm totally nude in the locker room, but not so much as I used to be. For me, the small kids were the worst. They have no filters and say what they see.

I am still not a great sight in a bathing suit, but these days I'm more concerned about getting a lane to myself (esp one in the sun on those rare sunny days) than worrying about how people see me.

One thing that help make my swims more fun is pool toys. I have a mesh bag I keep in my health club locker (Keizer Courthouse) that contains 2 pairs of flippers (long and short), a mask and snorkle and hand paddles.

I try to swim for an amount of time, but I still count laps - I'm the bean counter type. After every 10 lengths I stop, drink some Crystal Lite or G2 and mix up the toys. Here's my usual mix:

10 - mask & snorkle only
10 - add small fins
10 - add hand paddles
10 - sway out small fins for the long ones (and go really FAST!!!)
10 - back to smaller fins

I also mix in laps of water jogging from time to time during the transition times.

Anyway, that's how I keep my interest up in working out. Variety.

I saw a while back that there is now a Walkman to use in the pool. I've considered getting one but have not done so yet. 

Oh - and I prefer a snorkle and mask to goggles because by using them I can concentrate on the cardio and now worry about breathing. I did take the narrow part off the top of my snorkle to increase the air flow rate. Only problem is that if I do flip turns, I have to exhale really hard to clear the water from the snorkle. Maybe I need a better snorkle ...


patty cassady
on 2/6/09 6:41 am - Lake Oswego, OR
Wow flip turns!  That I would learn after getting that crawl down.  I know when lanes are busy - two to a lane is normal.  Some also do a circle with three people, but I haven't actually done that.  I would probably be worrying about the timing, cause like I said...most folks are all about crawl laps.  Sounds like you and your scooby bag are making it work.  Keep it up!
Patty T.
on 2/6/09 3:04 pm, edited 2/6/09 3:04 pm - Boalsburg, PA
The flip turns are for when I want to show off.

If I do too many in a row, I get short of breath



nolakm
on 2/7/09 4:37 am - Vancouver, WA
Good for you Patty!  I too love to swim and have bad knees.   I know I am still losing weight, because I can feel it in my clothes and that's a great thing.  I have also stopped weighing myself on the scales because it was just too hard.  If didn't lose at least 3 to 5 pounds a week, I would get so down on myself.  Now I listen to my body.  I am a size 16 in pants and that's a far cry from the size 32 I was wearing at the beginning of this journey.

Take care Patty.  You are an inspiration to me.

Blessings,
Nola

Kelly George
on 2/18/09 8:39 am - Gresham, OR
Patty

I am sitting in a birthing room with my 17 year old daughter waiting for my Granddaughter to join our family Sydney ann-mishele will most likely be born tomorrow. I am so excited and a little scared for Tamara she is young but she is a strong girl and I am sure she will do fine, she is early but her protein levels in her urine are concerning and her blood pressure is a bit elevated so we are using meds to get her cervix ready and will start to educe in the morning.


You are always an inspiration to me, yesterday was my 2 year anniversary and I realize that I have not lost any weight in the last year. I really need to make some more changes to get the last 40 lbs off. I have slipped into some bad habits like grazing in the evenings again and I find that the stress with Jen and my Tamara I have started using food again but so far no weight gain, of course the bypass keeps the amount  I eat down and I am careful not to overeat, but I know I can make better choices and like you need to get my butt moving more

I am looking forward to spring I hate going out in the weather, last Sunday the hubby and I went to this great new off leash area in Troutdale called 1000 trails and it literally had acres and acres of trails that you can walk on with the dog and no leash. There were lots of great dogs and the sun was out, I loved it and my Sammy dog was exhausted that night.

I have such a hard time finding time to work out before or after work it’s all I can do to get home make dinner, eat do dishes and fall asleep on the couch.

I to love the increased energy to do work like you said cleaning out the garage much more fun than going to the club any day

when the days are longer I find it easier to walk more, I and Al have talked about joining a club but alas he like allot of people got laid off this week and I so we will have to wait until he lands another job before we take on any extra expense. I am not sure how we will manage but God has always taken care of anything I cannot handle so I need to just trust.


  Patty

I am sitting in a birthing room with my 17 year old daughter waiting for my Granddaughter to join our family Sydney ann-mishele will most likley be born tomorrow. I am so excited and a little scared for Tamara she is young but she is a strong girl and I am sure she will do fine, she is early but her protein levels in her urine are concerning and her blood pressure is a bit elevated so we are using meds to get her cervic ready and will start to enduce in the morning.


you are always an ispiration to me, yesterday was my 2 year aniversery and I realise that i have not lost any weight in the last year. I really need to make some more changes to get the last 40 lbs off. I have slipped into some bad habbits like grazing in the evenings again and I find that the stress with Jen and my Tamara I have started using food again but so far no weight gain, of corse the bypass keeps the amont  i eat down and I am careful not to overeat, but I know I can make better choices and like you need to get my butt moving more

I am looking forward to spring I hate going out in the weather, last sunday the hubby and I went to this great new off leash area in Troutdale called 1000 trails and it literally had acres and acres of trails that you can walk on with the dog and no leash. There were lots of great dogs and the sun was out, I loved it and my Sammy dog was exhausted that night.

I have such a hard time finding time to work out before or after work its all I can do to get home make dinner, eat do dishes and fall asleep on the couch.

I to love the increased energy to do work like you said cleaning out the garage much more fun than going to the club any day

when the days are longer I find it easier go walk more, I and Al have talked about joining a club but alas he like alot of people got laid off this week and I so we will have to wait until he lands another job before we take on any extra expense. I am not sure how we will manange but God has always take care of anything I can not handle so I need to just trust.



patty cassady
on 2/18/09 1:17 pm - Lake Oswego, OR
Glad you wrote Kelly!  Your daughter will do just great.  My 16 year old daughter's best friend from sencond grade had a baby two years ago.  Yes she was fourteen and it was an aquaintence rape - the 26 year old man was procecuted and is serving hard time for that and another similiar offense.  Despite the ordeal surrounding his arrival, the little kid has been enveloped into our lives and of course we love him.  Gee, I've got a toy closet, car seat, snack bin that he knows exactly where it is, bath toys,  etc.  I know my kids know I need to be a grandma some day!  Tigard has done an amazing job of keeping her on track to graduate and really provided so many supportive service.  She's every bit as good a mother as any of the suburban moms I raised my kids with that had all the advantages of money and age.  I mean everything from getting well baby check ups to educating about choking and shaking a baby dangers to making scrapbooks (something my poor third daughter has yet to see me finish) have really helped.  My dauther and her are still able to feel like the teenagers they are, yet it is always understood that her kid comes with going to the mall and hanging out together.  There's no putting his raising on others and therefore, I think her decision has worked well the situation she faced.  I know our girl is going to go to PCC for nursing training starting in the fall - and she works a lot of hours at a fast food place.  It is hard but it is working out and her youth is not ruined, just changed.  Of course I will never get over the fact that despite her tiny 100 plus pound body she didn't tell anyone including my daughter until she was in her eighth month.  I am pretty sharp eyed and I took the group roller skating at spring break and didn't pick up on a thing.  She was roller skating!  A couple of days later she told her mom who called me.  He was born two weeks later!  I've heard of that but didn't see how it could be true, yet here it happened in our life.  Her mom and I were the only ones who knew yet, hadn't told the rest of the family yet.  It was such a shock that he was already born and we had to break the news to her very big close family.  She was so young and naive that she didn't even realize it until she was about five months along.  I will always feel bad she carried that all alone, still trying to keep up in P.E.  and at school.  Haven't talked about that in a long time.....but just my personal experience that makes me sure your Tamara will do just great.  It is for sure hard, but we have managed to support our girl and things are going wonderful for her.  Her mother has been pretty consistent in leaving the responsibility on her daughter, and I think that has been an important thing.  We are very supportive, but it's not a case of grandma raising him.

Congradulations on your Granddaughter grandma!

I am feeling confident about going back to basics.  I can't believe how much I had started eating cookies!  Not buying them has been a simple but definate strategy.  I stand there and look at the slim options (nilla wafers aren't worth it like the Milanos were).  I've only been swimming twice a week, but I have gone when I didn't want to, and that's a start.  I know the stress aspects - my daughter is in ninth grade.  A transition year for sure, and lots of bumps socially and academically, but we'll get through and I am trying to get out of letting my agony over watching her painful life lessons get me to sabotaging my own state of being.  Easier said than done!

Hang in there Kelly!

Patty
DBlazer325
on 2/19/09 10:50 am - Portland, OR
Hi Kelly!

Brian mentioned to me yesterday that you were about to become a gramma.  Congrats! I am back training with him 2x a week.  I love working with him, because I feel I get a better workout with him than I did at the fitness center. My oldest step- daughter had her 1st son at age 15, he was born with his urethra outside of his body.  He is going into Seattle's children's hospital in a couple of months for surgery.  He is 14 yrs old. For me, I am doing good, it has been 2 1/2 yrs since surgery, I am down 300 plus lbs ( give or take one or two lbs)  I have hit the brick wall.

Peggy
JoyHMB
on 2/19/09 12:19 am - Tualatin, OR
Oh, Patty!
I can sooo relate to the slip ups.  I, too, have started grazing through the day.  I have put on about 10 pounds and I am scared to death that I will regain my weight.  There is a great deal of stress in my life right now.  I am sure that's the reason for the grazing.  I am not hungry, at least not physically.

I cannot afford to attend any gym right now.  I have no excuse for not doing whatever exercise at home.  I know that depression is my greatest enemy.

Take good care of yourself, girl.  You can and will do this!

Joy

JoyHMB
233/145/133
Size22/10/8

...And then the day came, when remaining tight in a bud was more painful than allowing myself to bloom.

 

patty cassady
on 2/19/09 10:32 am - Lake Oswego, OR
I'm so glad to hear from you Joy!!!   How is your new knee?  I go between knowing how really bad mine was and trying to balance that with the fact that a new knee is not absolutely perfect.  My joint itself really is perfect, and the deep ache of bone is gone.  It performs like a champ and I was really reminded of that when I was treking through the snow on a mission from god the day before X-mas Eve to get to the Lloyd Center via walking, bus, and Max.  I hadn't really challenged myself THAT much and that night my other bad knee (about 75 percent gone) was aching in that old bone pain way.  It really brought home that my right knee (the new one) was was silent.  What I would call my bit of dissappointment is that the areas of the three points that I call where it's connected to my leg (that were where it would hurt during those early rehab torture sessions)  I still feel them when I move it certain ways.  Not walking, but bending in bed or curling up on the couch.  Not bad now that I'm writing this....but I do wonder how yours feels?  I only got to 105 on the bending measure during the P.T. and of course do you thin****pt up those excercises once the P.T. ended?  I thought sure my young self would just do so much better than the average patient, but I also think my activity level and expectations are much higher than a senior doing very limited things.  I have noticed though that the swimming made those spots much better - that darn excercise is always the answer isn't it!

I was a little surprised that after a few weeks of actually putting some effort into things I went to the doctor for something else today and I hadn't lost any weight.  I have tons of room to do more, I had just started my being more mindful of snacking and have been swimming, skipping my popcorn habit, etc.  But I think my jeans were much more comfortable this weekend so I am not going to get worked up by that. 

I'm still trying to decide if turning fifty and being peri-menopausal is any excuse for a bit of gain or a change in metabolism?  Or is that just one of those excuses? 

I know about the stress!  My fifteen year old is in ninth grade and I have found that to be a tough transition year.  It was for my son and this daughter - my middle one sailed through it.  And watching CNN and worrying about us and everyone else is not so easy either!  Hang in there!

Patty


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